Server #13 Auto Scramble

[Ralph Wiggum]

I played for about 3 maps tonight and it seemed fine. Regulars were spread out across both teams and people for the most part weren't piss farting around with swapping teams around. As I said in my first post, it's the unnecessary swapping of teams (especially after only 1 win has occurred) and the repetition of the same teams map after map after map which is ruining the server.

There is enough time on these maps for people to play both offensive and defensive. My belief is to just auto-join and be done with it.

[.♥. Cupcake .♥.]

There are some nights where there is a major dominating team for a map round, and then other nights there's quite a good even spread of the #13 regulars. I do agree with what smurf said earlier though, put yourself in their shoes for a change. There really is no fun in a quick 2 minute round where one team completely squashes the other.

I love how there are some players now who go and offer a helping hand to the losing team when it seems like there's an imbalance. That should be done more often I think, it does help a bit and it's reassuring there are people who aren't all about winning non stop.

I'm not that keen on auto-assign. I used to love the 32 player servers on GON until that was introduced and I saw most of the regulars in those servers slowly disappearing. Maybe a vote scramble.. but then we have auto-scramble already which helps.

And as for me, I'm happy when I'm on the same team as Sooth and vice versa

[manifold_curiosity]

You probably already have a particular mod in mind for this, but it looks like http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=89136a can scramble based on hlstats skill/rank. Seems like it can kick in as soon as it identifies an imbalance. If I understand correctly, this may be in setup before a round has even been played; So it doesn't need to wait 2 rounds on every map to see obvious stacks.

Those stats are a very good indication of who the regulars are, so might be worth considering. That way you can leave people to choose teams if they really want to play with a certain friend, and it'll just balance things if people don't do it sensibly. Wouldn't help if there was an imbalance due to non-regular skilled players though, but that's pretty rare.

Would have the added benefit of not having to wait 2 rounds on every map to identify the stack.

[Bicketybam]

gScramble is what we have used before on other servers and what I had in mind for it. It should be set up and running a little later this week. Would have done it earlier except for a brainfart moment I had in trying to contact Hydra about putting it on the server.

[Mythor]

Teams have been pretty well balanced tonight. Warned one person about stacking. Still saw complaints (and poor sportsmanship) about the teams anyway.

Sometimes... your team doesn't win. It doesn't mean the teams need scrambling.

[Edit] Also, it appears vote scrambling is enabled at the moment. Type !sausage to start the voting.

[Bicketybam]

[Edit] Also, it appears vote scrambling is enabled at the moment. Type !sausage to start the voting.

Seems when the plugin was added to the server the default settings were 'on' and not off. It was only added less then an hour ago but must have already kicked it.

I've disabled it all for now and will sort through the settings and then re-enable it tomorrow most likely.

[Mythor]

And put Frontier back.

[Bicketybam]

And put Frontier back.

What are you talking about? It never left.

[manifold_curiosity]

Frontier got skipped in the rotation last night. But immediately after was when the message about how to scramble first started to come up, so i assume the plugin was added around then which caused it to be missed.

[.♥. Cupcake .♥.]

Teams have been pretty well balanced tonight. Warned one person about stacking. Still saw complaints (and poor sportsmanship) about the teams anyway.

Sometimes... your team doesn't win. It doesn't mean the teams need scrambling.

[Edit] Also, it appears vote scrambling is enabled at the moment. Type !sausage to start the voting.

Exactly, I'm glad to see how things will go with this vote scramble. Of course there's going to be complains no matter what happens, but hey we're trying aren't we? I do want to know where Lil Chew Chew disappeared to, I left my sunglasses on that train you see...

(A note from a cupcake fanatic: I don't see why it can't be !cupcake instead of !sausage. Less cholesterol and who doesn't love something light, fluffy and sweet. Over .. burnt, salty and phallic shaped).

[Mythor]

Frontier got skipped in the rotation last night. But immediately after was when the message about how to scramble first started to come up, so i assume the plugin was added around then which caused it to be missed.

Ahh, this could be why, yes.
I tried to ask after it last night but someone was busy slaying dragons.

[Bicketybam]

Ok, it is up and running. Although no doubt it will need some tweaking.

Also, while I have enabled !votescramble I've tried to limit the amount of times it can be used. It may not be enough or too much but again something that may need tweaking.

(A note from a cupcake fanatic: I don't see why it can't be !cupcake instead of !sausage. Less cholesterol and who doesn't love something light, fluffy and sweet. Over .. burnt, salty and phallic shaped).

Wish granted.

People can ask for a scramble either by putting !votescramble or !cupcake.

But you do realise that now whenever people don't like how the teams are going and want to cry, their first thought is going to be !cupcake.

Just sayin'

[goosmurf]

Ok, it is up and running. Although no doubt it will need some tweaking.

Also, while I have enabled !votescramble I've tried to limit the amount of times it can be used. It may not be enough or too much but again something that may need tweaking.

FWIW I've never seen !votescramble useful for more than once a map on the PL&R servers. If it fails once then just let it be

The auto-scramble ratios are hard to get right so I wouldn't stress about them being bad to begin with.

(A note from a cupcake fanatic: I don't see why it can't be !cupcake instead of !sausage. Less cholesterol and who doesn't love something light, fluffy and sweet. Over .. burnt, salty and phallic shaped).

Wish granted.

People can ask for a scramble either by putting !votescramble or !cupcake.

But you do realise that now whenever people don't like how the teams are going and want to cry, their first thought is going to be !cupcake.

Just sayin'

Hahahahaha GW Cupcake

[gsan forever cake]

!CAKEEEEEE

[.♥. Cupcake .♥.]

Ok, it is up and running. Although no doubt it will need some tweaking.

Also, while I have enabled !votescramble I've tried to limit the amount of times it can be used. It may not be enough or too much but again something that may need tweaking.

FWIW I've never seen !votescramble useful for more than once a map on the PL&R servers. If it fails once then just let it be

The auto-scramble ratios are hard to get right so I wouldn't stress about them being bad to begin with.

(A note from a cupcake fanatic: I don't see why it can't be !cupcake instead of !sausage. Less cholesterol and who doesn't love something light, fluffy and sweet. Over .. burnt, salty and phallic shaped).

Wish granted.

People can ask for a scramble either by putting !votescramble or !cupcake.

But you do realise that now whenever people don't like how the teams are going and want to cry, their first thought is going to be !cupcake.

Just sayin'

Hahahahaha GW Cupcake

Yaaaayy, thank you
Well I did consider that, but it sure sounds/appears to lighten the mood a bit seeing cupcakes everywhere right? Think about it, you're feeling down, ask for a cupcake. You're feeling stressed, ask for a cupcake. You just want to smile, look at a cupcake.
Now I have a major hankering for baking...

Hmm as smurf did say, we'll see how things go and tweak around with it. If things really don't work, we'll leave it. At least we've tried and implemented a solution People have to be happy about that.