What is wrong with people? (specifically young males)

[SaNE]

Kids don't care what happens on the internet ...... until you find out their real name and call their parents and tell them what their kid(s) have been doing online.

"oh you have the wrong number, my child is never in trouble and has perfect manners"

[Marius]

What the hell is call id.

[SaNE]

What the hell is call id.

? What?

[Marius]

It's a relevant song lyric. Kids today and their music...

[PirateEggs]

What the hell is call id.

♫ My friends say I should act my age.
What's my age again?
What's my age again? ♫

Kids don't care what happens on the internet ...... until you find out their real name and call their parents and tell them what their kid(s) have been doing online.

"oh you have the wrong number, my child is never in trouble and has perfect manners"

Never got that response, I simply read the messages they'd sent me, and when you have the ability to actually record them saying it to you, kind of makes it hard for their parents to say; "That's not my child." ...

[Nekosan]

It's nothing to do with age and everything to do with anonymity, those "kiddies" on xbox are no different to the elderly gentleman who called my parents landline on Christmas day last year and asked my mother to suck his dick (or something equally crude). I wouldn't be so quick to label the trouble offenders on xbox as kids either if I were you, seems like every time one of these internet nutballs gets caught or tracked down by a news show it's always a disgruntled 25+ year old weirdo who's unhappy with his ugly wife and unwanted kids.

It's actually quite an interesting social phenomenon, given the chance to be ANYONE in an anonymous environment, quite a large chunk of people inevitably choose to be total dickheads. It's not just males either, you only need to stand around the food court of your local shopping center for 15 minutes to see exactly how low female behavior has fallen, many are simply just louder and cruder than ever before.

[Ninja Catfish]

The junk you see on that website or in the news represent the worst of the worst. I doubt it's representative of a generation, as much as news media might want to make it seem.

[skitzor]

How do you stay sane?

probs all the babes around the place.

The junk you see on that website or in the news represent the worst of the worst. I doubt it's representative of a generation, as much as news media might want to make it seem.

yeah this is a good point. just think of the ridiculous amount of messages sent, and you are only seeing a few hundred/thousand/whatever.

[RogerTheIncredible]

Why waste so much time trying to analyze behaviour that you don't like. Move on, life has a lot more to offer. I never got why girl gamers feel they need to publicize written abuse, what ever happened to the old stick and stones rule. Oversensitive **** most likely.

[xkrewshe8]

Working in vicpol IT, I can easily say that this is occurring more and more frequently, and not just in an online environment.

Also, to lock it to a single group of young males is also quite untrue, as a lot of what I see on a daily basis comes from both sexes, and astonishingly not just of a young age group.

Now I know I'm only 22 myself so not 'old' by a long shot and can easily see how younger people are targeted for being the cause of this, but to be quite frank as I said, it's not just young people and not only males.

[diamondd]

Working at a high school i see this **** all the time, Facebook abuse and whatnot. As Disco said they have zero accountability really. Some kids are just **** to put it simply, and when i see their parents it doesn't surprise me at all.

this is the problem really.

[hellbender]

There have been a lot of good points in this thread and i generally concur with them.

However what i see, are the standards of society dropping.... not fast, but slowly as each generation comes through. Compare the 80's and 90's and there's not much difference in morality and accepted society behavioral practice. But compare the 30's and 90's and you see a huge difference in some aspects of morality and what is accepted in society. Granted some things have improved... but at the same time others have degraded.

Now i'm not saying that immoral and unacceptable practices didn't occur in the 20's, but society didn't accept them and such behavior or actions were looked down upon and dealt with. These days such same behavior is accepted/tolerated and thus goes un- punished/dealt with and is allowed to permeate society further.

Another problem is with our method of teaching morality and accepted behavioral practice to children. There are society sub-groups of differing views on what is acceptable, but only a few sub groups will provide primary influence. IMO Its the parents and family sub group as well as a child's neighborhood and school that provide this primary influence.

I think school is a subgroup where the effects kids have from bad family and neighborhood sub groups can be mitigated. The problem is, these days teachers cannot really discipline kids effectively to teach them good behavior and morality without potentially being sued/sacked. Often because of this there is no respect for a teachers authority in such things, so kids dont learn enough about behavior of what they need to from school to make up for what they dont learn at home.

Whereas 10,20,30+ years ago a teacher had more control and authority, allowing them to effectively discipline a child. The child may still not behave better, but they know where the boundary is and they know when they cross it. Heck I remember, just ~15years ago getting a few rulers on the knuckles in primary school... i fell in line very quickly and i would not dare talk back to my teacher. Such measures are not taken these days because its seen as uncivilised and unnecessary.

The simple fact is our brains are designed to use such forms of input - pain (physical or emotional - denial of something which gives pleasure e.g. food, video game, TV etc) as a means to learn (and learn fast) the boundaries of our environment. Trying to to explain a concept to a child or even a teenager who cannot grasp this concept is very difficult, nigh impossible.

Now, the web has become another sub group which provides influence which is significantly harder to control. In some ways this group falls under the parents/family group, but if parents do not effectively monitor/filter their childs web access the possibilities of exposure to material/people/content which are contrary to accepted society behavioral practice are astronomical and have the potential to become the most negatively influential sub group. Especially as we are becoming much more an online society. Therefore its imperative more than ever that our online morals and behavior match up with our offline ones.

IMO it all comes down to discipline, which our society is in general lacking. It (the westernised world) is all about free will and freedom of speech, which is in of itself fine. However now with the added anonymity the web provides, such bad attitude and behavior is able to permeate further with little consequence or accountability.

/essay

[xkrewshe8]

IMO it all comes down to discipline, which our society is in general lacking. It (the westernised world) is all about free will and freedom of speech, which is in of itself fine. However now with the added anonymity the web provides, such bad attitude and behavior is able to permeate further with little consequence or accountability.

I couldn't agree more!

[Toll Meyer]

The older generation can just be as bad, their spelling and grammar just makes it easier to understand.

I've never quite understood the fascination of coming across a female gamer online, it's just another gamer. But I have to admit, I dated a predator posing as a house pet last year that would hop on my PS3 and chat away. Some of the filth she got just being female was amusing, not to mention the amount of friend requests just due to a female speaking on the mic. Quite a few disgruntled and disappointed young males when they'd hear my voice over the mic the next day though!

The anonymity factor allows people to be whatever they want to be whatever they want to be, good, bad, ugly or downright needing euthanasia. Unfortunately it's starting to get to the point where many don't care about being anonymous and are quite happy to do it in your face.

I just can't shake the whole feeling that Idiocracy is is coming true quicker than the film implied! Or are the younger generation doing it 'family style' now???

[DeusIgnis]

what he said

I think you hit the nail on the head...