Gold Edition Female Skin

[CronA]

After buying the Gold Edition for Killing Floor simply for the 'exclusive' female skin (I already own the game), i later on found out that it will be coming out on DLC. I was very disappointed by this, although i can gift the game and DLC's to one of my friends, i was expecting an exclusive skin.

The only place you will find out it is coming out on DLC is on the forums. They have it still labeled as 'exclusive' on their online store, on their in-game trailer and everywhere else.

I have made a fair request that they make a slight change to the DLC version of the skin by removing the golden shades on the skin and replacing them with a different colour. This way, the Gold Edition buyers still get their exclusive skin and everyone can still have the female skin, if it is possibly doable.

I wouldn't mind if others supported me on this.
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/s ... hp?t=81640

[revengous]

so...you paid $30 for a game you already had...simply to play as a female in game?

I don't see the point

[CronA]

Yes i did.

I supported a game that i enjoy playing that gives free updates, weapons and events to simply play as a female character. I guess its the rarity and novelty of the skin that got me intrigued and well, i guess i don't mind throwing money at things i want. Gifting someone else the game and DLC's didn't bother me. What did bother me, is that i got cheated into buying it by TWI themselves, when, at a later date, the female skin will be available for DLC, while they continue to label the skin as 'exclusive' in their in game trailers and store.

But set that aside, i don't care about how much i paid and i'm not here to discuss it. I'm more worried about the exclusive skin i paid for. I still want my exclusive skin and others that won't buy the Gold Edition can still have the skin as DLC, which is why i made the request.

[Jez]

What on Earth makes you think that those of us who weren't willing to lay down $30 for a boxed copy of a mostly digitally distributed game would support you in this? Personally all this thread makes me want to do is buy the female model DLC when it comes out and then taunt every mofo who was silly enough to buy a retail copy just so they could one-up every other player ingame.

[figuresofstick]

Yes i did.

I supported a game that i enjoy playing that gives free updates, weapons and events to simply play as a female character. I guess its the rarity and novelty of the skin that got me intrigued and well, i guess i don't mind throwing money at things i want. Gifting someone else the game and DLC's didn't bother me. What did bother me, is that i got cheated into buying it by TWI themselves, when, at a later date, the female skin will be available for DLC, while they continue to label the skin as 'exclusive' in their in game trailers and store.

But set that aside, i don't care about how much i paid and i'm not here to discuss it. I'm more worried about the exclusive skin i paid for. I still want my exclusive skin and others that won't buy the Gold Edition can still have the skin as DLC, which is why i made the request.

Is the skin available for DLC at the moment? If it is not then, TWI haven't done anything wrong because the skin is still exclusive. I'm sure at such point as the DLC skin is released it will no longer be marketed at exclusive, however until such times as that happens the skin is exclusie and you've got what you paid for. your exclusive skin.

Also a lot of games these days release things with a "special" edition of a game, only to further on down the lifecycle of the game release that same content as DLC for everyone else. Does that mean that those people got gimped because it's now available no.
Why? Because at the time they purchased the game the content was exclusive. The developers just saw an opportunity to either make more money or keep everyone happy and keep interest in their game.

[CronA]

They used the word 'exclusive' as a marketing tool to sell Gold Edition. Labeling it as 'exclusive' is not correct if it was going to be release at a later date on DLC, that is called 'early access', not 'exclusive'.

The DLC for the female skin was announced before the release of Gold Edition only on the forums, nowhere else. This was under the Gold Edition on their store.
"Ash Harding is an exclusive to the Killing Floor Gold Boxed Edition and will NOT be available any other way."

Not only did they use the word exclusive, but they added will NOT be available any other way. When 'The Ball' was up for pre-purchase, a KF skin came with it. It was exclusive with the pre-purchase of 'The Ball' as this skin is no longer available or obtainable. One would think that they were doing the same thing here that they did with 'The Ball'. When they add, will NOT be available any other way, one would think this also includes DLC, not to mention the emphasis on the word 'NOT'.

Alot of people were unhappy it was only coming out on Gold Edition, then when they announced that it will be out on DLC 5 days after, people that had already made their pre-purchases were now the unhappy ones.

Upon checking the store now, it has been changed, most likely because it is getting closer to the release of the DLC.

While people like 'Jez' actually think i cared about how much money i spent, i'm sorry for you if you think $30 is a lot of money, i was more worried about the skin.

Am i disappointed? Yes. Angry? No. My opinion now? Don't care really.

I got support on the TWI KF forums regardless.

[figuresofstick]

Exactly it was used as a marketing tool as it so often is these days. I don't blame you for disappointed I would be too.

And I also agree with you that the the DLC version should be slightly modified to still give you the exclusive skin.

Simply point it's the Devs bowing down to public pressure by those that were originally unhappy.
Generally those that are unhappy make the most noise, especially those that either can't afford or aren't willing to pay a little bit more money.

[Jez]

While people like 'Jez' actually think i cared about how much money i spent, i'm sorry for you if you think $30 is a lot of money, i was more worried about the skin.

I think $30 is a lot of money to repurchase a game for a purely cosmetic skin, a skin whose only distinguising feature from all the others is a different voiceover and anatomy. Not to mention you come across as a massive tool for wanting to retain your "exclusive" status at the expense of those who want a female skin but don't want to have to buy a boxed copy of a game they already own.

I think you're confused about who should be feeling sorry for who here.

[CronA]

No, i still feel sorry for you because i have friends to gift the game to. Seeing as though my Steam account has 246 games and is worth over 3k, do you think it bothers me to buy a game i already own to gift to a friend for $30? Do you think it bothers me to gift Killing Floor to one of my friends when i have already gifted probably over $100 worth of games that i already own? I've probably already bought Killing Floor about 3 times. Do i care? Nope, not at all.

This time, I get a lovely Golden Boxed Edition of Killing Floor and a Character skin to show for it.

What i don't like, is game companies such as TWI blatantly lying to sell a product. For the pre-purchase of The Ball, you got an 'exclusive' skin, which still remains unobtainable as it was an actual exclusive. They used the word 'exclusive' to sell that product. For the pre-purchase of RO2 Digital Deluxe Edition, you got two 'exclusive' skins, which are unfortunately obtainable now though achievements apparently, due to outcries on the forums because people missed out or couldn't be bothered to pre-purchase the game.

They release Gold Boxed Edition of Killing floor, stating in their trailer, in-game and on their store that "Ash Harding is an exclusive to the Killing Floor Gold Boxed Edition and will NOT be available any other way.". This was STILL stated on the store two and a half months later after release. After alot of pre-purchases were made, they decide to announce that it will be up for DLC before release. The only information that it will be up for DLC is on the forums. No-where else, not their store, in-game or anywhere else.

They have changed the store now, the don't even mention the female skin on the Gold Edition anymore. Why would i still want my exclusive skin? Because they had to blatantly lie in order to make more money by telling people on the store, this was the only way to get it. Others shouldn't be allowed to obtain the skin by any other mean but Gold Edition considering this was labeled on their product. I want my exclusive skin simply because i was told it was going to be exclusive to Gold Edition only.

If people didn't want to buy a game they may already own to get the skin, in my opinion, bad luck and wait for more female skins, not have a cry till you get what you want, that's what babies do.

[figuresofstick]

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If people didn't want to buy a game they may already own to get the skin, in my opinion, bad luck and wait for more female skins, not have a cry till you get what you want, that's what babies do.

This is basically what you are doing.

Also has there been anything officially announced about the skin being a DLC? OTHER than in the forums of which I do not consider a formal announcement.

[CronA]

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If people didn't want to buy a game they may already own to get the skin, in my opinion, bad luck and wait for more female skins, not have a cry till you get what you want, that's what babies do.

This is basically what you are doing.

Also has there been anything officially announced about the skin being a DLC? OTHER than in the forums of which I do not consider a formal announcement.

Not really. I asked for a change in the DLC version of the skin so others can obtain it without having to buy the Gold Edition and without making the Gold Edition skin non-exclusive which i think is a fair request. The only thing i was crying about is being lied to.

And no. The ONLY place you would know it was being released as a DLC is the TWI forums, or after buying the Gold Edition, it says it will be released as a DLC on the 1st of August in the game manual, although as far as i know, it hasn't been released as of yet.

[Jez]

No, i still feel sorry for you because i have friends to gift the game to. Seeing as though my Steam account has 246 games and is worth over 3k, do you think it bothers me to buy a game i already own to gift to a friend for $30? Do you think it bothers me to gift Killing Floor to one of my friends when i have already gifted probably over $100 worth of games that i already own? I've probably already bought Killing Floor about 3 times. Do i care? Nope, not at all.

Oh man you must be so cool. I like how you've turned a disagreement about whether the boxed version of KF is good value into an opportunity for you to brag about the size of your wallet, steam friends list, and penis-hat. For the record I think what is bothering you is a bad case of cognitive dissonance.

What i don't like, is game companies such as TWI blatantly lying to sell a product. For the pre-purchase of The Ball, you got an 'exclusive' skin, which still remains unobtainable as it was an actual exclusive. They used the word 'exclusive' to sell that product. For the pre-purchase of RO2 Digital Deluxe Edition, you got two 'exclusive' skins, which are unfortunately obtainable now though achievements apparently, due to outcries on the forums because people missed out or couldn't be bothered to pre-purchase the game.

They release Gold Boxed Edition of Killing floor, stating in their trailer, in-game and on their store that "Ash Harding is an exclusive to the Killing Floor Gold Boxed Edition and will NOT be available any other way.". This was STILL stated on the store two and a half months later after release. After alot of pre-purchases were made, they decide to announce that it will be up for DLC before release. The only information that it will be up for DLC is on the forums. No-where else, not their store, in-game or anywhere else.

They have changed the store now, the don't even mention the female skin on the Gold Edition anymore. Why would i still want my exclusive skin? Because they had to blatantly lie in order to make more money by telling people on the store, this was the only way to get it. Others shouldn't be allowed to obtain the skin by any other mean but Gold Edition considering this was labeled on their product. I want my exclusive skin simply because i was told it was going to be exclusive to Gold Edition only.

When I bought my original Xbox way back when, it came with a copy of Halo that said exclusive to Xbox on the cover. That game is now available on PC, but that doesn't mean that Microsoft was wrong when they marketed the game as an exclusive, because it was correct at the time of sale. In much the same way, TWI marketed a bonus with the gold edition of Killing Floor that at the time you bought it was exclusively available that way, the fact that you fell for the hype is not an adequate excuse for this kind of crusade. Frankly I think it's pretty stupid to try and replicate scarcity with limited editions of a digital product, I mean you've still got the cardboard box it came in, yeah?

If people didn't want to buy a game they may already own to get the skin, in my opinion, bad luck and wait for more female skins, not have a cry till you get what you want, that's what babies do.

Let's try it this way: if people wanted to buy a game they already owned to get a special skin, then in my opnion it's bad luck for them if that same skin becomes available in another way at a cheaper price later.

[CronA]

Oh man you must be so cool. I like how you've turned a disagreement about whether the boxed version of KF is good value into an opportunity for you to brag about the size of your wallet, steam friends list, and penis-hat. For the record I think what is bothering you is a bad case of cognitive dissonance.

I was simply trying to put a point across, in which you still don't understand. Besides, the majority of the people i talk to already know this and do not care. What makes you think that i think you or anyone else would care? I'm a gamer, its my job to play games. You derailed my thread with your argument if the Gold Edition was good value or not. My entire thread wasn't even based on this. You started the argument, i was simply trying to tell you that money isn't the issue i have. It may be your issue, its not mine.

When I bought my original Xbox way back when, it came with a copy of Halo that said exclusive to Xbox on the cover. That game is now available on PC, but that doesn't mean that Microsoft was wrong when they marketed the game as an exclusive, because it was correct at the time of sale. In much the same way, TWI marketed a bonus with the gold edition of Killing Floor that at the time you bought it was exclusively available that way, the fact that you fell for the hype is not an adequate excuse for this kind of crusade. Frankly I think it's pretty stupid to try and replicate scarcity with limited editions of a digital product, I mean you've still got the cardboard box it came in, yeah?

Let my highlight the part that you seemed to miss again. "Ash Harding is an exclusive to the Killing Floor Gold Boxed Edition and will NOT be available any other way." One would think this would mean DLC at a later date. As i stated before, The DLC was confirmed ONLY on the forums for the small percentage that actually uses them. Two and a half months later, they still have this stated on the Gold Edition, and will NOT be available any other way. I would call that a blatant lie if they have already confirmed the release of the DLC.

Let's try it this way: if people wanted to buy a game they already owned to get a special skin, then in my opnion it's bad luck for them if that same skin becomes available in another way at a cheaper price later.

Or, TWI shouldn't go back on their word in the first place and then continue to sell their product under false statements to make loads of money.

If you didn't want to show some support to the thread, that is fine, but don't make it an argument. This wasn't about you, or the price of the Gold Edition, or how you think its over-priced or how you aren't willing to buy it. This thread wasn't clearly pointing at you for support so i don't even know why you bothered posting in the first place.

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[Chucky]

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