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Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby News Portal » 12 Jun 12, 12:37 pm

We've already heard how Eidos Montreal is treating the upcoming Thief 4 with respect as they did Deus Ex: Human Revolution, in terms of staying true to the spirit of the franchise. Now studio boss Stephane D'Astous has compared the two games again. "Our second game needs to be as good or better than Deus Ex," he said. "In Deus Ex, we really wanted to give different options in how to play, and we will want to bring a certain level of that to Thief."

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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby Makena » 12 Jun 12, 12:39 pm

Do want.
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby James Pinnell » 12 Jun 12, 12:49 pm

The only thing that really wrecked DX:HR were the terrible boss fights. Why get someone to spec themselves entirely for stealth then make them complete a full frontal fight they will just get maimed in?
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby Makena » 12 Jun 12, 12:53 pm

James Pinnell wrote:The only thing that really wrecked DX:HR were the terrible boss fights. Why get someone to spec themselves entirely for stealth then make them complete a full frontal fight they will just get maimed in?


Very much this, but they're also very aware that they dropped the ball on that, so hopefully they've learned from that and we won't get a repeat.

Source of sorts: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/201 ... ur-fault/1
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby meji » 12 Jun 12, 1:05 pm

I love the Thief series, my favourite in gaming.

Of a little concern is them saying "different options in how to play"

Just say no to GTA: Garrett, don't want to see it, nor do I want to see Splinter Cell: Hammerite.

Deus Ex already had a ghosting option so it is a given that it will be in Thief 4 which is fantastic as myself and many other players - shouts out to TTLG, loved the whole ghosting experience in T1 and T2 and yes even T3.

The core of Thief though is, imo, in the gameplay elements: Stealth, Shadow and Sound.

The weapons could be rather iconic as well - especially the Blackjack, that muts make a comeback. Going toe to toe to someone in the original Thief was dangerous, nearly so in T2 and wasn't too hard in T3 - hopefully this aspect is pushed more towards the T1 approach - Garrett is a Thief not a Thug. Of course T1 had it's fair share of combat and T2 toned it down to be more like a Thief then T3 could kick it up to near Rambo sections :P

Of course is it even going to feature Garrett? A new protagonist could be more of an assassin (is it the child Garrett notices in T3?)

I enjoyed DX:HR it was a good effort and certainly held the DX flavour, I think these guys are probably the guys to do it (given that LGS went bust a long time ago), it's a shame Emil Pags is now at Bethesda as he did some great work on T2 and had great ideas for T2 Gold (that never eventuated) - you can also thank him for the good Thief quests in Oblivion :P

Thief is one of those games I instantly crank to maximum difficulty as I love th experience. I remember loading up T1 all those years ago and playing the first mission on the normal setting, went straight back set it to the hardest I could and did the whole game that way). Thief is a game to savour.

So looking forward to this game.
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby James Pinnell » 12 Jun 12, 1:06 pm

Makena wrote:
James Pinnell wrote:The only thing that really wrecked DX:HR were the terrible boss fights. Why get someone to spec themselves entirely for stealth then make them complete a full frontal fight they will just get maimed in?


Very much this, but they're also very aware that they dropped the ball on that, so hopefully they've learned from that and we won't get a repeat.

Source of sorts: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/201 ... ur-fault/1


Oh, cheers for that!
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby wazzuppi » 12 Jun 12, 2:32 pm

Make better than dues ex??

thats **** childs work, the game was the biggest peice of **** i ever witnessed
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby Nekosan » 12 Jun 12, 3:58 pm

Game doesn't even need "boss fights", they'd just be stupid.
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby Bek » 12 Jun 12, 4:12 pm

wazzuppi wrote:Make better than dues ex??

thats **** childs work, the game was the biggest peice of **** i ever witnessed

:evil: :evil: :evil:

Pretty sure it's an (almost) entirely different team working on thiaf than HR as well?
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby tacitus42 » 12 Jun 12, 6:37 pm

Good on em for at least saying that they will keep the original feel of the game. I was pleasantly surprised with Deus Ex HR and really felt like it was basically the best sequel anyone could have done.
Oh and the boss fights I just pushed F2 once or twice and they were over. A minor mistake in an otherwise grand experience in my opinion.
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby Snootle » 12 Jun 12, 6:49 pm

wazzuppi wrote:Make better than dues ex??

thats **** childs work, the game was the biggest peice of **** i ever witnessed



Deus Ex was probably my most favourite game if not media in general ever.
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby libbaz » 12 Jun 12, 7:00 pm

I just want confirmation on Stephen Russell.
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Unread postby InAUGral » 12 Jun 12, 7:42 pm

Ive had a copy of the Thief Anthology for some time and have yet to get around to finishing either the 1st, 2nd or 3rd games. What I did play of the first game I did quite like. I think that the team that did DE:HR did a very good job keeping it Deus ex like so if they apply the same formula to Thief I don't see how it can fail.
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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby Vencha88 » 12 Jun 12, 9:14 pm

This concept art that has been floating around for Theif 4 for a while kinda made me assume it wont live up to old school fans expectations (not that anything ever does). Being said, never played any of them so I don't know/care/Grok!

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Re: Eidos Want to Make Thief 4 ''Better than Deus Ex''

Unread postby meji » 12 Jun 12, 9:23 pm

libbaz wrote:I just want confirmation on Stephen Russell.



Yeah would be great to hear him in the game again, love Garrett's voice. Not to mention, iirc, Benny :P

Would love Eric Brosius back on sound as well as he does sound atmosphere better than anyone else in game development.

If that is concept art for Thief 4, it will seem to be a massive departure from the series. ie Original is: Medieval style with mixtures of steam technology and magic woven in.

Thief was a very stylized game, art, sound, gameplay. It makes me wonder if "staying true to the spirit of the game" is the same as Bioshock was to System Shock 2.
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