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Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby News Portal » 17 Apr 12, 12:53 pm

From flat-out remakes to HD re-releases, we're now at a point where old games are being turned to more than ever as inspiration for where to go next. Marcus Dunn investigates the growing trend of embracing the past.

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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby therazza » 17 Apr 12, 2:21 pm

would pay for a new version on Total Annihilation!!
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Unread postby IvanTSR » 17 Apr 12, 3:07 pm

The beauty of remakes is that they're remaking games that were designed when games were designed well. The beauty about being limited by technology (and also not envisioning a mass market) meant that the product had to have great gameplay/story/core mechanics to make it fun and worth buying - far more effort was put in here rather than the sheer number of manhours needed to code/design a modern engine.

Lets face it you don't get Crysis for gameplay - you get it to see what computers can do nowadays.

Think about the gradual degeneration of Lucasarts games in the space sim genre. You start with games that were actual sims, i.e. x-wing through to x-wing alliance, but then throughout you see the introduction of rouge squadron etc etc. It could be in Lucasarts' mind it was just apples and oranges in terms of the concole v pc markets - but I just find it really hard to be hopeful for a real sequel to/remake of the space sims which preserves that more indepth style of play. That said I think it'd be a huge commercial success. I just spent too many dollars on a replica lightsaber - now all my mates wives are mad as their husbands are seeking to purchase elegant weapons from more civilised ages lolol. As if we wouldn't all fork out for xwing. Joystick sales would go mad also.
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Unread postby Slazza » 17 Apr 12, 4:11 pm

therazza wrote:would pay for a new version on Total Annihilation!!


http://store.steampowered.com/app/9350/

There you go.
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby ^42alpha^ » 17 Apr 12, 4:55 pm

"Battlefield 2" cloned on the Frostbite engine, with destruction.
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Disco LT » 17 Apr 12, 5:10 pm

IvanTSR wrote:The beauty of remakes is that they're remaking games that were designed when games were designed well. The beauty about being limited by technology (and also not envisioning a mass market) meant that the product had to have great gameplay/story/core mechanics to make it fun and worth buying - far more effort was put in here rather than the sheer number of manhours needed to code/design a modern engine.


QFT, I agree wholeheartedly!
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Tajin » 17 Apr 12, 5:22 pm

therazza wrote:would pay for a new version on Total Annihilation!!

Give Spring a try.

http://springrts.com/wiki/Games (at the bottom)
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Marcus Dunn » 17 Apr 12, 6:08 pm

IvanTSR wrote:The beauty of remakes is that they're remaking games that were designed when games were designed well. The beauty about being limited by technology (and also not envisioning a mass market) meant that the product had to have great gameplay/story/core mechanics to make it fun and worth buying - far more effort was put in here rather than the sheer number of manhours needed to code/design a modern engine.


That's actually a really good point and I completely agree.
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Bluefire » 17 Apr 12, 6:50 pm

Mmmm remake of Janes AH-64D Apache Longbow... (Manual REQUIRED).. would buy.. Ive still go the brackets made up to bolt cyclic and collective to my chair.
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby revengous » 17 Apr 12, 7:00 pm

IvanTSR wrote:Lets face it you don't get Crysis for gameplay - you get it to see what computers can do nowadays.


I bought it for 20 bucks, the computer power is fun with the editor, but seriously - throwing a single barrel at every enemy on the entire level.
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Disco LT » 17 Apr 12, 7:03 pm

Bluefire wrote:Mmmm remake of Janes AH-64D Apache Longbow... (Manual REQUIRED).. would buy.. Ive still go the brackets made up to bolt cyclic and collective to my chair.


Now that is cool.. my one beef with helo games over the years has been that you can't play it with a joystick and throttle, you'd need a cyclic, collective, rudders and joystick IMO!
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Deren » 17 Apr 12, 7:09 pm

I personally like this trend. Old games have great nostalgia value, and updated graphics etc can make the game even greater.

I do understand, however, that someone might think it's "raping" the game when you update and change things. Just remember that the original is still there if you prefer that one. The remake is just an addition :)
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Marcus Dunn » 17 Apr 12, 7:20 pm

Wouldn't you prefer a new experience though? Like a new Baldur's Gate story rather than just the original remade with some new stuff tacked on?

That being said, I'd sacrifice a small child in order to have the Dragonlance gold box games brought into modern tech.
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Sathias » 17 Apr 12, 7:33 pm

I do like the idea of some remakes, but there are a few games I would prefer "spiritual successors" to instead. A new Vampire Bloodlines type game created more in the style of Fallout New Vegas (as far as quest and faction structure) would be awesome IMO.
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Re: Everything Old is New Again: Remakes and Re-Releases

Unread postby Bek » 17 Apr 12, 7:34 pm

Chris Avellone in his recent reddit AMA stated he'd had thoughts of doing an indirect Planescape: Torment sequel, it was kinda hinted it might be a kickstarter one day.
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