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Unread postby ageNtreachery » 6 Apr 12, 8:09 am

Krogan wrote:I was going to make a comment but then I realized I don't actually give as hit about Mass Effect.


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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby ageNtreachery » 6 Apr 12, 8:13 am

also
http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/mass ... ended-cut/


Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.
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Unread postby realOne » 6 Apr 12, 8:46 am

Even though its free I bet there will be people still outraged about this on the official forums.

Personally im fine with the ending and just want more DLC with more missions.
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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby spkypwnsuall » 6 Apr 12, 8:47 am

ageNtreachery wrote:
Krogan wrote:I was going to make a comment but then I realized I don't actually give as hit about Mass Effect.


I like your forum name

Where is the facepunch-styled ZING button when you need it :D


ageNtreachery wrote: Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

Not like this is a surprise to anyone; if anything, they are avoiding setting a precedent by giving us this free DLC. And of course, it'll only be about the extent of 15 minutes of content by the time its done...
But what ever, if it promises some form of clarity, who am I to complain. *shrug*
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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby Spectre01 » 6 Apr 12, 9:56 am

Hopefully it won't be über gay


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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby Bluefire » 6 Apr 12, 10:07 am

I still really want to play this game.. but not prepared to pay the current B&M prices for a hard copy and dont really want to pay for a cdkey then "pirate" it as given how the usa is going atm in 5yrs time if I wanted to redownload for another play through my only option would be to lube up like the rest of you ;)
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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby Texelate » 6 Apr 12, 11:40 am

revengous wrote:
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Texelate wrote:Damn this is disheartening.. I was hoping for a paid, proper DLC so e could play the "real ending". My money was on Indoctrination Theory. Hopefully it won't be über gay


Hang on, do I understand this right you WANT to pay for a
"real ending"?

how is the current ending not real? it ended.


I should clarify by saying that, no, I am outraged that EA would include the "real ending" in a DLC when it should have been in the game in the first place. Before this press release, and given I firmly believe in Indoctrination Theory, what I thought was going to happen was that EA/Bioware were going to release another DLC which lets you continuing playing after the cinematic where Shepard wakes up on the ground in London. Given this extended cut DLC is free, that's obviously incorrect.

The only reason I mentioned "disheartening" and "hoping for a paid DLC" was because I was willing to do anything to play a proper ending as opposed to the awful mess that shipped with the game.

For those who don't believe in indoctrination theory, the evidence really is paramount. It is a fact that a cinematic plays which shows Shepard waking up on the rubble strewn ground in London. There must be more. Indoctrination Theory says that everything which happened after being hit with Harbingers beam is purely inside Shepard's head. If you did not watch the video I linked previously and you still have doubts, I assure you, you will not after you have viewed it.

realOne wrote:Personally im fine with the ending and just want more DLC with more missions.


I don't see how this is even possible.
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Unread postby iambeanie » 6 Apr 12, 12:09 pm

What Texelate said. It is easy to argue that the indoctrination theory is nitpicking at tiny things here and there but the argument does answer some key questions and seems far more valid than the normal ending. Friends and i weren't annoyed that the ending was terrible, more disappointed that it wasn't more epic/ included more of our choices but after reading up about the indoctrination ending....bravo bioware...bravo!
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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby exe3 » 6 Apr 12, 12:26 pm

Well before I start it seems to have been confirmed that the Indoctrination theory was utterly wrong and desperate players were just clutching at straws for any reason to explain one of the worst written endings ever produced.

Commander Boom wrote:I'm not convinced the Indoctrination theory is so foolish. Foremost, the supposedly real ending is so bizarrely disconnected with the rest of the series as to seem some sort of horrible nightmare. Furthermore,

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Anderson. Ahead of you. Alone. Unhurt. In impeccable uniform. Chatting to the admittedly slightly less implausibly present Illusive Man.

Oh and your suddenly present pistol. With infinite ammo.

It's so horribly disconnected because it was so horridly written. There is NO logically explanation to any of this, it's just the result of VERY BAD WRITERS.

As for the spoiler tags.

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It was stated in the game that he came out somewhere else. no it wasn't obvious where he may have come from but that's just a result of poor level design. Though you could argue he came from the left or right ledge right after Shepherd comes out of the place with all the bodies. An invisible wall stops Shepherd for gameplay reasons, no reason that it would have stopped Anderson.

Also I didn't see Anderson get hit by the laser did you? Really it's just bad writing and level design nothing else.

And I don't get how the Illusive Mans presence is so implausible. He was indoctrinated, he was sent there to stop Shepherd from opening the arms. And before you say anything else you get the choices ONLY because the Crucible successfully docks. The Crucible docking gives the kid new knowledge and new options that he didn't have before.

And for the ammo you do realize if you ran out you outright wouldn't be able to continue whether it be the shields dude killing you uncontested or being utterly unable to perform the red ending? It's not a story thing, it's a game thing, a common one at that.


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Texelate wrote:It is a fact that a cinematic plays which shows Shepard waking up on the rubble strewn ground in London.

It is a fact that this is a load of cr@p. It was clearly the Citadel he woke up on. I don't get how anyone could think it was London. It's one of the things that I hate about Indoctrination theorists how they come out and state things things as "fact" when they're anything but. Most of the arguments are just utterly stupid. Anderson and Illusive Man in your head? Really? Illusive Man making you shoot Anderson being symbolic for Paragon and Renegade sides? Are you joking me? It's just honestly frustrating to watch.

One of the ONLY legit points is the inky shadows but even then inky shadows in nightmares is a common trope so is hardly conclusive evidence either.


Probably the biggest evidence against Indocrination Theory is that if it did happen IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE END OF THE GAME. It would have been an event during the game, maybe occuring towards the end, similar plots have been done before I think (can't remember off the top of my head /edit GoW1/3 had you going into your head at the end, Bioshock had the whole deception thing going as well) but simply put the game would not have ended with the results of the Indoctrination attempt.

iambeanie wrote:What Texelate said. It is easy to argue that the indoctrination theory is nitpicking at tiny things here and there but the argument does answer some key questions and seems far more valid than the normal ending. Friends and i weren't annoyed that the ending was terrible, more disappointed that it wasn't more epic/ included more of our choices but after reading up about the indoctrination ending....bravo bioware...bravo!

That's the thing, it actually doesn't. It answers very few things and actually causes far more confusion and inconsistency than the actual ending that was presented. They took a couple of coincidences and tried to force everything else to bend to the Indoctrination Theory. ME3's ending was an amazingly poor piece of writing, nothing more. Trying to make any kind of sense or meaning of it is only fooling yourselves.

ageNtreachery wrote:also
http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/mass ... ended-cut/


Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

Nothing artistic about such a horrible ending especially when it was written by a separate entity from ME1 and 2.
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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby Tim Colwill » 6 Apr 12, 1:01 pm

ageNtreachery wrote:also
http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/mass ... ended-cut/


Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

Thanks for that, I've added it into the original article :)
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Unread postby FrostySonic » 6 Apr 12, 1:21 pm

so very disappointed. Indoctrination Theory (even if it wasn't their idea) gave them a way out of the terrible mess of plot and writing the ending was (note the singular 'ending').
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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby Bluefire » 6 Apr 12, 2:32 pm

BW's next challange .. write 16 DIFFERENT ways to die by shooting yourself in the head with a 9mm pistol that dont involve trauma, bleeding or lead poisoning..
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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby Texelate » 6 Apr 12, 3:21 pm

@exe3
Hmm, I never considered that the location he woke up in was the Citadel. I've just re-watched the cinematic and I still believe it is London, though. I also believe that the dozens of other clues and hints that point towards indoctrination theory are irrefutable. To me, having two symbols (Anderson and the Illusive Man) to represent both "fighting" and "control" respectively is precisely what indoctrination is all about. This is one of the reasons the theory makes perfect sense to me. Furthermore, if it is false, then what place or purpose did Shepard's dreams throughout the game serve? Especially seeing as elements from those dreams started appearing during the theorised indoctrination. Lastly, if you do not make the correct "fighting indoctrination" choices you do not get rewarded with the "waking up" cinematic. The list goes on and on.

So, I just really hope that you are wrong :) If it is complete tosh, then the writing was simply terrible. If it is not, then the writing was absolutely brilliant.

I guess the extended cut DLC will give us our answer! The only comfort I take in the horrible ending, even if it is just a result of terrible writing and that the indoctrination theory is complete false hope, is that the only reason we could feel so strongly about the ending is because the rest of the series was so fantastic. For that at least, I am grateful.
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Re: BioWare Announced 'Extended Cut' Free DLC to add Additio

Unread postby Texelate » 6 Apr 12, 3:31 pm

Also, I feel that I should point out again that no further content is possible under the current circumstances of the ending. At least, not in the context of the game we already know and love. Unless all of that DLC will take place in Sole where all the species have been stranded with nothing but a ravaged planet (Earth) and that is only if the Control option was chosen. This also means that Shepard won't be playable given he is dead. Both of the other Catalyst options have similar gaping holes.

Unless the DLC missions will take place as if the ending never happened.. which will be another bullet to the heart of my love for Mass Effect.

Again, Indoctrination Theory just makes sense. I really do hope it's at least partially true. Indoctrination has been a huge part of Mass Effect from the first instalment.. being able to play through it and experience it first hand would be terrific.. which is what I and a lot of other people hope has happened.

Bioware has obviously confirmed more content, so it will be very interesting to see what happens.

Extended Cut DLC sure has a lot to explain!
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