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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Drakand » 2 Apr 12, 2:16 pm

love it - directed at almost every post after mine :)
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Tera » 2 Apr 12, 2:23 pm

Should do an Admin's vs. Forumers comp like in the good old days.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Commander Boom » 2 Apr 12, 3:27 pm

This sounds great, keep up the good work GON.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Avant » 2 Apr 12, 3:49 pm

Tim Colwill wrote:Thanks all for your positive response to this, it's great to see :D

Let me address some questions.

MunchY wrote:Why'd all the newsbots leave at once? :O

The newsbots are still around, it's just that we'll be doing all of our news in-house from now on and using our resources to push out more features for you :) We have limited resources and this is the best way to give you the content you want with what we have.

Artful-dodgeR wrote:Loved the tech round ups... they seemed to disappear fast :-(

They'll be coming back much more regularly now, hopefully!

Klas wrote:As long as the features aren't about turning Diablo into an FPS this announcement can only lead to good for gon! I'm looking forward to it. :mrgreen:

What a silly idea!

Avant wrote:This is all good but I demand that the reviews while lacking scores at least have a TLDR.

Perhaps a summary is something we should look into! I'll make a note of it.


Cheers! Not that I dislike what you guys write but often I don't read a review.. just the summary or the score and then dissect more from it if I need it.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Auld » 2 Apr 12, 3:56 pm

I would also like to see you adopt a review score system like Ars, its still very mildly subjective but easy to see whether I would like it or not.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Nekosan » 2 Apr 12, 4:20 pm

I'm going to be "that guy" as usual, i reserve my judgement until the "new GoN" has had its run for a little while, gotta treat that bish like an MMO :twisted: .
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby exe3 » 2 Apr 12, 4:32 pm

I guess i'll have to go against the grain again. I have no issue with what's being added, but I do have an issue with what's being removed. The new articles might be good, at least I hope they are because tbh articles in the past have come across as uninteresting walls of text i've rarely read but hopefully these newer ones might be better (this is mainly an issue because they're a replacement to the news which i'll talk about below). Also I miss The Warp Pipe. T_T

I don't see why the massive drop in console, I like PC as much as the next but there's nothing wrong with console. At least don't have the faux PC elitism i've seen in articles in the past.

Review score 'eh'. I've never really agreed with the need to remove it, all the arguments come across as overanalyzing the issue imo. It's no big deal either way. What will be needed however in replacement is a summary of what's good and bad and/or an epic conclusion to sum up what the game offers and what works/doesn't work etc.

Finally I severely dislike the news changes. The new articles look mindboggling unprofessional (I don't even want to open the friggin links anymore) and quite frankly lazy. A reason I come here is for news, a small wall of text with a link to go elsewhere is not what I want. Yes, GON (since Chienne and co. left) has been some of worst in regards to the copy pasta nature of your articles but just like the mission structure of AC1 and the Mako in ME1 that was something to fix, not outright remove to not deal with.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Marcus Dunn » 2 Apr 12, 4:46 pm

Sounds really good Tim, good work!

Definitely agree with a PC focus, but as someone mentioned, I hope that doesn't skim over the absolute gems like the Dark Souls out there...
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Zisheng Chen » 2 Apr 12, 4:53 pm

Looks good. Could do a pros/cons table at the top of the review to give people an at-a-glance view of what they might and might not enjoy in a particular game.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Zisheng Chen » 2 Apr 12, 5:05 pm

exe3 wrote:I guess i'll have to go against the grain again. I have no issue with what's being added, but I do have an issue with what's being removed. The new articles might be good, at least I hope they are because tbh articles in the past have come across as uninteresting walls of text i've rarely read but hopefully these newer ones might be better (this is mainly an issue because they're a replacement to the news which i'll talk about below). Also I miss The Warp Pipe. T_T

I don't see why the massive drop in console, I like PC as much as the next but there's nothing wrong with console. At least don't have the faux PC elitism i've seen in articles in the past.

Review score 'eh'. I've never really agreed with the need to remove it, all the arguments come across as overanalyzing the issue imo. It's no big deal either way. What will be needed however in replacement is a summary of what's good and bad and/or an epic conclusion to sum up what the game offers and what works/doesn't work etc.

Finally I severely dislike the news changes. The new articles look mindboggling unprofessional (I don't even want to open the friggin links anymore) and quite frankly lazy. A reason I come here is for news, a small wall of text with a link to go elsewhere is not what I want. Yes, GON (since Chienne and co. left) has been some of worst in regards to the copy pasta nature of your articles but just like the mission structure of AC1 and the Mako in ME1 that was something to fix, not outright remove to not deal with.


You make some good points there. While I'm merely an occasional contributor and have no say in what happens, I feel what GON is trying to do is fill a niche in online content in Australia. Going with a PC focus is probably a good move. The nature of online news delivery and our timezone means it's not realistic to be able to fix this issue without the news writers staying up into ungodly hours.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby DarkMellie » 2 Apr 12, 5:38 pm

If this means more content from Triggerlegs then I'm all for it!

I always enjoy watching GoN evolve and the writing talent you've attracted (myself most emphatically not included) makes this a serious site... and turning those writers solely to features with a PC-slant is a canny move in a saturated market.

Looks like my dual 580's finally have a reason to live :)
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Marius » 2 Apr 12, 5:41 pm

I like the new news format. The most important part of the news is the lead paragraph, so that's all we need, especially if the site is moving towards more features, which is a good thing.

But if we're ranting about downsides, the only possible downside I can see is that I get a feeling of redundancy when I click on the link that says 'read full article by GON News', as the full article doesn't introduce anything extra.

Not sure what to do about that though, if anything.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby MrAwesomeness » 2 Apr 12, 5:52 pm

Sounds great, keep up the great work!
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Tim Colwill » 2 Apr 12, 5:54 pm

Marius wrote:I get a feeling of redundancy when I click on the link that says 'read full article by GON News', as the full article doesn't introduce anything extra.

This is something we hope to address in the future :)
exe3 wrote:The new articles look mindboggling unprofessional (I don't even want to open the friggin links anymore) and quite frankly lazy

I'm sorry you feel that way. Why would you need to open the links though? The entire story is in the one paragraph. There's no need to open any links unless you want to investigate the source.

Do you read the news through the General News forum or through the main page? The overwhelming majority of our traffic comes through the main page, where it looks exactly the same as it used to.
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Re: Announcement: Change is Coming to games.on.net

Unread postby Marius » 2 Apr 12, 5:58 pm

I was wondering about that, actually.

I couldn't make suggestions because a lot depends on the infrastructure of the site as well as traffic sources.
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