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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Rodinga » 10 Mar 12, 12:04 pm

well the end was a bit of a downer for me.
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Option one: become the catalyst, destroy the mass relay network and send the reapers home. doom everyone to being trapped where they are and everything else that comes from having lost the mass relays. At least people live (whoever is left that is).
Option two: Destroy the reapers, earth, the citadel and the mass relays. EVERYONE DIES

had to pick option one because i think Shep and Liara just conceived a little blue child.


The ending past the credits was sweet though
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the voice of old guy is Buzz Aldrin, second man on the moon. nice touch
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Bronze_D » 10 Mar 12, 1:53 pm

ME3 was alright..
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until the end came... then i seriously go 'WTH?'

'that's IT?'

worse still when i checked all the other 'ending path' i had and discovered they are almost all identical except minor differences.

No actual description or closure that shows the actual effect of all you've done so far to other races... sigh, i don't know... i was expecting something... more conclusive and actual closure though i am sure it will come in the form of D farkin LC for 15 bucks for each race that i want to see.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby DarkMellie » 10 Mar 12, 2:32 pm

Bronze, that post needs hidden tags!
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Bronze_D » 10 Mar 12, 2:32 pm

oh fine, it's not like it spoiled details...

though you might wanna avoid bioware forums or ME3 forums then

because... well... i am not the only one who thought so of the ending and the forum is now full of... well... the stuff you expect internet will shoot you with when you give that kind of ending.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby TRB » 10 Mar 12, 3:51 pm

Marius wrote:I'm nowhere near the end so I'm not reading that. :P

But the key reason I much prefer ME3 to ME2 is that ME2 overall story was tired and non-innovative. You spent the game recruiting squad members. Which is just Dragon Age in Space. ME3 doesn't do that.

ME2 was also incredibly disjointed in that doing some loyalty mission somehow improved, for example, the ability to avoid a headshot in the suicide mission. That's not how loyalty works. I found the whole concept utterly ridiculous, despite the overall game being great.

The headshot example was real. My 'disloyal' Tali showed her 'disloyalty' by charging forward to try and help Shepard (who she felt disloyal to) and threw herself in front of a person in the line of fire, who, did I mention... she didn't feel any loyalty to? "I don't like you but out of spite I'm going to sacrifice myself for you!"

I guess everyone will see what they're predisposed to see. :P There were plot holes big enough to drive a truck through in ME2, and to level the same criticism against ME3 as if it's a much worse thing sounds off.

ME2 was still a 9/10 game, but ME3 has fixed many of the things I didn't like, so I think it's 9.5-10/10.

Another good one is I never play my character as a pure paragon or renegade. ME2 punished that, ME3 doesn't - I can now choose paragon or renegade options based on my total reputation, not individual alignment scores. My femshep leans towards paragon, but will go renegade if she's stressed, and ME2 didn't like that much.

The only major plot hole I'll complain about so far in ME3, which stops it getting a perfect 10 in my mind is... why on earth did my Shepard leave Cerberus and turn herself in? I find the concept a bit hard to fathom, since she was on pretty good terms with Cerberus by the end of ME2. They needed to show the Normandy getting caught or something in an intro cutscene. The game start was a bit jarring.



I agree with exception to your scoring and the reputation system.
while I also didn't like it in ME2, its become pointless in ME3.
it doesn't matter is you go paragon or renegade and you get 'reputation for almost anything and
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there is only 1 conversation in the whole game that requires the highest level of rep, for no apparent reason.


I also agree about the whole business with getting locked up for blowing up the batarian world.
for a start, who gives two sh*ts about the batarians?
they can't even leave their own system now without a mass relay.
oh noes!, war with the batarians, their few ships might get somewhere in the next 100 years!

also you can replace recruiting squad members in ME2
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[you still do this to a degree though] with recruiting random people, groups, factions .etc to your cause and also saying 'hi' to former squad members who'll you'll see twice if you're lucky in ME3.






Bronze_D wrote:ME3 was alright..
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until the end came... then i seriously go 'WTH?'

'that's IT?'

worse still when i checked all the other 'ending path' i had and discovered they are almost all identical except minor differences.

No actual description or closure that shows the actual effect of all you've done so far to other races... sigh, i don't know... i was expecting something... more conclusive and actual closure though i am sure it will come in the form of D farkin LC for 15 bucks for each race that i want to see.



agree completely and its what makes ME3 5/10 if you're being generous.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Marius » 10 Mar 12, 4:21 pm

5/10?

Nah, 9.5/10 for

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being able to make out with Kelly and getting a picture of her


alone. Anything after that point is just gravy. Nothing can spoil the game now!
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Vencha88 » 10 Mar 12, 7:51 pm

Also, speaking of holes, why does no other race bar Humans and obviously Asari have female members of their species on the citadel? Do they just not exist?

Also, why can't Shepard talk to Jack before what I assume is my allotted romantic cutscene? I get it that in ME1-2 you were dead then for Cerberus so Shepard might have lost contact with Kaiden/Ash/Liara but it's been six months and Jack and Shepard just don't email?
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Matthyew82 » 11 Mar 12, 1:04 am

isnt the salarian on the council a female? cos it really sounded like on while i was listening to it in ME3
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Marius » 11 Mar 12, 1:20 am

Vencha88 wrote:Also, why can't Shepard talk to Jack before what I assume is my allotted romantic cutscene?

Because there weren't enough Jack fans to pressure Bioware into having a full relationship.

Though, seriously, the whole 6 month gap between ME2 and ME3 was done pretty badly. They really needed a ME2 expansion pack.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Toasty Fresh » 11 Mar 12, 10:08 pm

This multiplayer stuff is complete BS. So I don't have to go through all the tedious fetch quests on the Citadel to get the best ending, I have to put up with the horribly laggy and convoluted mess that is the multiplayer, just to get a lousy +4 galactic readiness bonus.

They need to fix the lag if they want me to play the stupid multiplayer. Granted it's fun when it works but in this state it's pretty much unplayable.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby DarkMellie » 11 Mar 12, 11:14 pm

SO GLAD I REVISITED ME2!

Forgot how much I loved everything about this game.

Just found out about the Collector's IFF and have 7 loyalty missions to complete.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Matty » 11 Mar 12, 11:18 pm

DarkMellie wrote:SO GLAD I REVISITED ME2!

Forgot how much I loved everything about this game.

Just found out about the Collector's IFF and have 7 loyalty missions to complete.


Hope you have done all the loyalty mission before you get given the chance to do the the IFF :P
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby DarkMellie » 11 Mar 12, 11:39 pm

Nope, the IFF is only mid-point, I can still complete them all from here.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby TRB » 12 Mar 12, 3:59 am

Toasty Fresh wrote:This multiplayer stuff is complete BS. So I don't have to go through all the tedious fetch quests on the Citadel to get the best ending, I have to put up with the horribly laggy and convoluted mess that is the multiplayer, just to get a lousy +4 galactic readiness bonus.

They need to fix the lag if they want me to play the stupid multiplayer. Granted it's fun when it works but in this state it's pretty much unplayable.



I take it you don't know how peer-to-peer works?
they aren't hosting servers to run the game instances.
you get lag when some idiot in Bulgaria is hosting because there is no way to filter the games you join by ping.

if you host the game then you don't see the lag.
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Re: Mass Effect 3

Unread postby Toasty Fresh » 12 Mar 12, 10:00 am

TRB wrote:
Toasty Fresh wrote:This multiplayer stuff is complete BS. So I don't have to go through all the tedious fetch quests on the Citadel to get the best ending, I have to put up with the horribly laggy and convoluted mess that is the multiplayer, just to get a lousy +4 galactic readiness bonus.

They need to fix the lag if they want me to play the stupid multiplayer. Granted it's fun when it works but in this state it's pretty much unplayable.



I take it you don't know how peer-to-peer works?
they aren't hosting servers to run the game instances.
you get lag when some idiot in Bulgaria is hosting because there is no way to filter the games you join by ping.

if you host the game then you don't see the lag.



I am fully aware of how P2P works and how dedicated servers work. My problem is that they're clearly not matching me up with other Aussies, or even adding an option to search for games by region. That is my problem right there.

Doesn't help that the multiplayer mode is far more difficult playing by yourself. In the multiplayer I can charge in at a group of 5 enemies and melee them all to death, but when I play the multiplayer solo, I'll get killed instantly by 3 of them >.>
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