BioWare Moves to Allay Day-One DLC Concerns

[Mekon]

Then they say the DLC wasn't completed until "well after" the game was put under Certification process which is what I'm guessing they call "bug testing and QA"

You'd be guessing wrong. Certification is what Microsoft and Sony do before they allow a game to get shipped for their console platform.

[Krogan]

So we are suppose to be thankful that they pull content from the game, add it to the collectors edition and then decide to sell it for $10 as DLC day one? Anyone that buy's that DLC is easily the gaming equivalence of battered wife that is suppose to thank her husband for teaching her "sense". This **** about a separate team is also total bs, if it wasn't for the DLC this "separate team" would just have been working on the the original game, not the mention that the DLC is incredibly crucial to the overall story.

I was planing to buy Mass Effect 3 but Bioware has managed to convince me to cancel my pre order.

[Vand]

So we are suppose to be thankful that they pull content from the game, add it to the collectors edition and then decide to sell it for $10 as DLC day one? Anyone that buy's that DLC is easily the gaming equivalence of battered wife that is suppose to thank her husband for teaching her "sense". This **** about a separate team is also total bs, if it wasn't for the DLC this "separate team" would just have been working on the the original game, not the mention that the DLC is incredibly crucial to the overall story.

I was planing to buy Mass Effect 3 but Bioware has managed to convince me to cancel my pre order.

That's a pity, a lot of us will be enjoying it while you sit there complaining about Bioware bringing out a great game and DLC (which is more of a bonus for CE, with the option to pay a little more to get it from the SE, which they have said).

[Commander Boom]

Their argument that the DLC was developed after the completion of the core game is of no relevance to me, or any other consumer.

It's really simple. My game, purchased on release, will not have all availiable content developed for the game. Content created before I can buy the game is being withheld, and my copy will not be complete at time of purchase. Instead, they would have me give them extra - over the extra I already have to pay for being Australian - to enjoy a complete experience.

They can **** right off.

[Ooshp]

Their argument that the DLC was developed after the completion of the core game is of no relevance to me, or any other consumer.

It's really simple. My game, purchased on release, will not have all availiable content developed for the game. Content created before I can buy the game is being withheld, and my copy will not be complete at time of purchase. Instead, they would have me give them extra - over the extra I already have to pay for being Australian - to enjoy a complete experience.

They can **** right off.

Right, so they should make ALL the content of the Collector's Edition available to people who purchased the Standard Edition, free of charge? That would be really smart. You don't think the CE buyers would be pissed they spent the extra $40 on stuff everyone else just got for free?

Please, don't buy the game. I don't want my favourite IPs being swamped by the lowest common denominator. I almost suspect they pulled this stunt just to weed the idiots out of their fanbase.

[Marius]

This **** about a separate team is also total bs, if it wasn't for the DLC this "separate team" would just have been working on the the original game, not the mention that the DLC is incredibly crucial to the overall story.

And did that separate team work for free?

I have to agree with Ooshp here.

Most complainers here aren't just being logical.

Games have production budgets which dictate how much can be in a game apart from DLC. You paid a certain amount for a certain amount of game content.

They chose to develop more content than was budgeted for in the core game (at cost to them - professional DLC needs work), and so want to charge more for this.

Now you're arguing that they should give you such stuff, that had a development cost, to you for free. It's a classic gamer entitlement mentality.

Maybe the complaints would be valid if the game was really short, but by all accounts it's the biggest Mass Effect to date. EA does charge pretty high for their games, but we also have to take into account that the size and quality of the games is pretty good.

[Matthyew82]

Im not seeing the big problem here, as Ooshp says, what the dlc is, is the story parts that you get with the Collectors edition but not in the standard version. Frankly those who just got the standard version should feel privileged that they released the CE dlc so soon, or at all, and of course you are going to have to pay for it otherwise what was the point of a CE edition anyway.

I bought the CE version cos i love Mass Effect, im also Australian and i dont feel like im getting shafted. Everyone should read all the information before talking about things going nto their asses or insulting the team that brings us some of the best RPGs on pc to date

[debri]

I wont be touching this game anyway because of the Origin requirement. My suggestion to those that want a complete experience (all dlc, patches etc), is to hold your purchase for as long as possible. Give it six months or so and you should be able to play a complete and polished game.

As for the cynicism shown here by some, it is not out of place when it comes to EA and their track record.

[Syncourt]

Maybe the complaints would be valid if the game was really short, but by all accounts it's the biggest Mass Effect to date. EA does charge pretty high for their games, but we also have to take into account that the size and quality of the games is pretty good.

My thoughts exactly. As long as the core game has enough content to make the price reasonable and it doesn't take away any important parts of the story, what's the problem with day 1 DLC?

If the core game is still good value then why complain about them offering up a bit more content for those who want it?

[Serval]

I wonder if the Collector's Edition containing a Prothean was intended...

[Zethnar]

I can't believe the level of stupid **** going on, not only surrounding this DLC, but on this very thread.

OH MY **** GOD!!! A COLLECTOR'S EDITION HAS FREE DLC IN IT??? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT? WHAT A SHOCKING STATE OF AFFAIRS!

Seriously, you idiots need to wake up and realise this is no different from the hundreds of other games that had free DLC in the collector's edition. I don't recall anyone kicking up a huge stink when Saints Row 3 had some kind of crazy weapons and costumes in it. OH MY GOD, DO YOU GUISE REALISE THEY CUT CONTENT FROM THE FULL GAME TO PUT IT IN THE COLLETRORZ EDISHUNZ?

The character is most likely something like Zaeed, a short mission, limited conversation topics and overall a disappointment. OH ****, I JUST REALISED ZAEED CAME WITH THE MASS EFFECT 2 COLLECTOR'S EDITION!!! OH **** GUISE THEY CUT CONTENT THERE TOO!!! FROM THE MAIN GAME!!!!!!!!!!

Idiots.

(I just realised, Mass Effect 2 'Collectors' edition. yeahhhhhhhhhhhh!)

[FryzieDelta]

Idiots.

Welcome to GON. Your first post had quality. You will be well recieved.

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[ungstein]

A favour? I'm not buying this contortion of words, the guy's a douchebag. The concept of day -15 DLC is ridiculous, and has convinced my friends and I that EA is more corrupt than VALVe. Not buying ME3 until drastic changes are made.

[Marius]

A favour? I'm not buying this contortion of words, the guy's a douchebag. The concept of day -15 DLC is ridiculous, and has convinced my friends and I that EA is more corrupt than VALVe. Not buying ME3 until drastic changes are made.

Every company sells collectors editions on day 1 that have more content than standard editions. So I'm afraid you're going to have to give up gaming altogether.

(Note that this day 1 DLC is just the collector edition DLC. You can pay $80 for the standard edition with no extra content, $90 for the standard edition + collector edition content, and $100 for the full deluxe edition with content and comic, art etc.)

[Ooshp]

I wonder if the Collector's Edition containing a Prothean was intended...

That's just too much for my brain to handle.