Keyboards!

[Ninja Catfish]

Who uses a keyboard with NKRO?
I'm almost definitely getting the Ducky Shine, and wondering if anyone thinks it's worth the minor inconvenience of the PS/2 connection (only detected if connected at boot/no hotplugging) for the NKRO, or whether it's better just to use the 6KRO over USB and not have to worry about the PS/2 connection coming out then having to reboot.

[Bronze_D]

my steelseries 7G is connected with PS/2

full n-key rollover.

and i have to wonder why it would only be detected at boot, i've hotplugged PS/2 keyboards without problems, not sure about mouse though... don't have any surviving PS/2 mouse left.

for instance, i just disconnected this 7G and reconnected it to type my last line.

[Bek]

I'm almost definitely getting the Ducky Shine

yay, let me know how it is As for full nKey rollover, if you can't really think of any situations where you need to press more than 6 keys at once I wouldn't worry about it. I'll probably use ps2 anyway just to save a usb port since my front panel ones are broken..

[diamondd]

my steelseries 7G is connected with PS/2

full n-key rollover.

and i have to wonder why it would only be detected at boot, i've hotplugged PS/2 keyboards without problems, not sure about mouse though... don't have any surviving PS/2 mouse left.

for instance, i just disconnected this 7G and reconnected it to type my last line.

that doesn't count, it remembers.

try turning your computer on without it plugged in or plugging in a different keyboard and you're going to have problems

[Wyld]

Honestly, I just use the USB port.

I find I don't tend to need to accurately press 20 keys at once

The benefits of it being a USB device does me fine.

[Bronze_D]

try turning your computer on without it plugged in or plugging in a different keyboard and you're going to have problems

let me try that in a sec, but i am curious what would be different between PS/2 keyboards from one to another given they all uses identical signal pattern to communicate with the PS/2 controller chip on the motherboard.

wait, yeah i remember now, it won't work if not booted with it connected first... though i am pretty certain PS/2 keyboards should work with one another if u just hotswap it since they all are identical anyway as far as the PS/2 controller is concerned.

in the case with ninja though if i interpret it correctly, the keyboard just being disconnected mid use or what not (after boot) wouldn't matter as long as he just reconnect it back.

then again my 7G is permanently attached to my main box, given it's size and weight plus the large cable, so i probably can't really relate to conditions where it being disconnected would be an issue because it will never be disconnected in my case.

for portability i just use my second active keyboard, the wireless 320 if i needed control from the sofa.

[diamondd]

try turning your computer on without it plugged in or plugging in a different keyboard and you're going to have problems

let me try that in a sec, but i am curious what would be different between PS/2 keyboards from one to another given they all uses identical signal pattern to communicate with the PS/2 controller chip on the motherboard.

wait, yeah i remember now, it won't work if not booted with it connected first... though i am pretty certain PS/2 keyboards should work with one another if u just hotswap it since they all are identical anyway as far as the PS/2 controller is concerned.

in the case with ninja though if i interpret it correctly, the keyboard just being disconnected mid use or what not (after boot) wouldn't matter as long as he just reconnect it back.

then again my 7G is permanently attached to my main box, given it's size and weight plus the large cable, so i probably can't really relate to conditions where it being disconnected would be an issue because it will never be disconnected in my case.

for portability i just use my second active keyboard, the wireless 320 if i needed control from the sofa.

while they are sending the same thing and you'd think it shouldn't matter if its a different keyboard I'm under the impression (although I could be wrong) that the device is still uniquely identified by your computer.

[Bronze_D]

between PS/2 mouse i can imagine that...

but between PS/2 keyboards it should be practically identical... i don't have a second PS/2 keyboards with me right now but i faintly recall doing something similar to this back then with the old keyboards on the really old box.

sec, let me see if i can dig out the old PS/2 from the storage..

testing, and yep... i just swapped out my 7G for my dusty old PS/2 logitech... and this sentence is what u get out of it.

so it works, though i can't guarantee if it will work with every single model out there... theoretically it should, they all communicate in the exact same manner.

[DXPetti]

pretty sure you cannot hotswap PS/2 keyboards or mice. Hence why when USB came along it was magical

[Bronze_D]

as long as the PS/2 keyboard was hooked at boot it won't matter what u do with it afterwards... i am currently typing with my second PS/2 keyboard i just swapped in while half of my previous post sentence was with my 7G.

PS/2 mouse will most likely fail indeed though, that one i know.

k, now to swap my 7G back in, let's see if anything bad happens.

and yep, back to 7G again... no problemo.
and as it should be... all PS/2 keyboards i know of communicate in identical signal pattern, unless ur keyboard have some sort of unusual layout pattern.

[PURITy Kin]

I just got a K60. So far I'm pleased with it. Somewhat on the expensive side however cheap when you compare it to ones covered in Battlefield skins or LCD screens.

[Ninja Catfish]

I think I'll use PS/2 on the Ducky when I get it. I can't think of a situation where I'd need to hot swap.
NKRO will be nice, and the fact that PS/2 interrupts rather than USB's polling will ease a TINY bit off the CPU made my decision.
Really the decision makes almost no difference, but I kinda feel like trying PS/2

[Bronze_D]

I just got a K60. So far I'm pleased with it. Somewhat on the expensive side however cheap when you compare it to ones covered in Battlefield skins or LCD screens.

decent mechanical keyboard most likely will not go below 100, those with LCD screens and what not are almost certainly membrane keyboard or scissor switch (which is still membrane keyboard) since the cost of LCD and mechanical switches together tend to push the keyboard price range beyond reasonable budget of most ppl.

[Soothsayer.]

I got my Ducky Shine with Cherry Browns and white LEDs a few months ago. Even now, still loving it. Looks brilliant at night with red caps on WASD in combination with white LEDs only lighting up WASD. Can't imagine going back to my G15 sitting there or other Logitech/membrane keyboard. I was waiting for the Leopold FC700R for PBT caps but... impatience got the better of me.

I think I'll use PS/2 on the Ducky when I get it. I can't think of a situation where I'd need to hot swap.
NKRO will be nice, and the fact that PS/2 interrupts rather than USB's polling will ease a TINY bit off the CPU made my decision.
Really the decision makes almost no difference, but I kinda feel like trying PS/2

I'm assuming you've got it by now, but for anyone else wondering - hot swapping works perfectly on PS/2! Infact, I unplugged and plugged in my keyboard as I type this and it works perfect. The only difference with PS/2 and USB I've noticed is that the repeat rate seems to be much higher on PS/2 (e.g. holding down a button will give more characters per second).

[Wyld]

Very tempted to sell my black switch 104 keyboard .. nothing wrong with it, and I love it .. but I'm not finding I want a keyboard with a keypad dammit. I'll probably end up buying the exact same keyboard but with moar keys heh.