Can the servers use sv_pure? Lets get rid of some cheaters!

[frozenbread]

Can the servers(particully #07, full rotation), have sv_pure 1 set on, to only accept official wall textures.

For those that don't know, you can legitally use edited texture files that allow you to see through walls. This is completely VAC proof and undetectable, as your not really hacking, just using 'skins for walls'. eg. mat hack

Having sv_pure would stop people from being able to use custom wall textures, and only improve gameplay(player skins arn't effected, so you can still use any custom skins for player models).

(Cozi)
Please read my response before voting
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[fml.Exterminator]

Can you see though walls in real life?? NO so why should a server let you!any form of cheating is against games.on rules and VAC rules. a server would get banned for allowing players to use cheats. As for improve game play I honestly believe it will damage the game even more. If you want to use those settings I think you should go buy your own server!

[Matty]

First off

a server would get banned for allowing players to use cheats.

Not true

Secondly, he's not asking for sv_pure to be set to allow custom wall texture, he's asking for the opposite.

And finally

Can the servers(particully #07, full rotation), have sv_pure 1 set on, to only accept official wall textures.

For those that don't know, you can legitally use edited texture files that allow you to see through walls. This is completely VAC proof and undetectable, as your not really hacking, just using 'skins for walls'. eg. mat hack

Having sv_pure would stop people from being able to use custom wall textures, and only improve gameplay(player skins arn't effected, so you can still use any custom skins for player models).

As far as I'm aware the games.on.net servers have always been set so people can't use custom wall textures. (Well for at least other source games hoested by Games.On.Net, can't say I play much CSS)

[frozenbread]

As far as I'm aware the games.on.net servers have always been set so people can't use custom wall textures. (Well for at least other source games hoested by Games.On.Net, can't say I play much CSS)

Afraid not, the servers are about as pure as a Thai hooker.
You can run absolutely anything.

[Kenz..]

As far as I'm aware the games.on.net servers have always been set so people can't use custom wall textures. (Well for at least other source games hoested by Games.On.Net, can't say I play much CSS)

Afraid not, the servers are about as pure as a Thai hooker.
You can run absolutely anything.

You do have a point.
Although all i can suggest is that they will show signs of having an advantage and once you demo and submit them with enough evidence they will be dealt with.

Unfortunately the game is always going to have idiot's who cheat and want an advantage to ruin the game for everyone else, For those of us who play fair and for fun will need to keep doing what we have been, Demoing and submitting.

[Cozi]

Hey all,

Its interesting that this thread has now popped up as it is something that I am currently discussing with the admin team.

To explain to everyone what sv_pure does when turned on it forces the player to use skins/models enforced by the server. In the past the community has objected to us turning it on and liked being able to mod certain textures to bring a change to a very old game.

The positive of turning sv_pure on is that it will cut down a small percentage of players that use textures to gain an advantage. Keep in mind when demoing a player or an admin comes to watch it will still look like they are using a 3rd party program and they will still be permanently banned. The negative of turning this on is that you wont be able to add any custom skins/models which a lot of people do and there are some cool textures/mods out there.

So I will leave this up to everyone. If the majority want it turned on I am more than happy to make the change across all CSS servers.

I have edited OP to add a poll

[Kenz..]

Personally against it, as we should be able to have skins if you wanted too (I am not a fan of skins but I know others are)

They are still "walling" Demoing is the way to go imo.

[fml.Exterminator]

Im with Kenz on this one No go for me!!!

[Diabolix]

I don't think I have met any long term players of CS that uses skins. Those who do are a very very small minority (I've yet to find a single regular (plays daily) that does).

I think it's a non issue and should be turned on.

[Ghost101]

Good morning and afternoon peoples.

I'm pretty sure you should turn this this "sv_pure" on.. As I know many people that use skins..
Even the old players.. It will sure Change a lot of things in css.

Keep

[Kenz..]

I don't think I have met any long term players of CS that uses skins. Those who do are a very very small minority (I've yet to find a single regular (plays daily) that does).

I think it's a non issue and should be turned on.

Yeah sure you have regular people who play the game but you also have people that play and turn there game into something else.

Why take that away from them?

Like it's been stated they will still show signs of having an advantage, Really to me the change is unnecessary but I am very intrigued that others are so confident on this one.

[fml.Exterminator]

lol so far Kenz you and i have voted NO lol Guys lets face it having skins ant going to solve any problems and its not about having a different look! if you want a different look go play COD or something why change the game? sure new maps would be best after all thats the main issue along side of hackers!!

[frozenbread]

The 'sv_pure' command is completely adjustable, and you can choose exactly which files can or can't be custom.
You can choose to allow custom player/weapon skins, and only allow original surface/wall textures.

I'm all for allowing custom player or weapon skins, as they can spice up gameplay and can't give you a real advantage. Does anyone actually know someone that uses custom wall textures, say as they feel the walls on dust are boring?

Only allowing authentic wall textures will remove the option for someone to easily and legitimately wallhack. Then if they still want to cheat, they can use an actual hack and hopefully VAC catches on for a nice permaban.

[Cozi]

The 'sv_pure' command is completely adjustable, and you can choose exactly which files can or can't be custom.
You can choose to allow custom player/weapon skins, and only allow original surface/wall textures.

While you are correct the only skin that I would allow would be custom weapon skins but then really whats the point? Without going into detail there are still dodgy player skins that can be used.

If sv_pure gets enabled its going to enforce all defaults skins/models.

[fimmwolf]

If sv_pure gets enabled its going to enforce all defaults skins/models.

Then stop trying to please those that cry the loudest when they can't cheat.

Enable it already.