'Nerfing' is getting out of control!

[RaTTuS007]

calling for nerf's is the new calling everyone hacks.

[llllTrooperllll]

Look here for ideas completed
https://getsatisfaction.com/battlefield3/ideas/completed

All that does is support what I just said, which is sad.

What do you suggest then?

[iambeanie]

Unfortunately, some guns ARE more powerful than others. At the moment (though being fixed in an upcoming patch) the m16 is the single most used gun in the game as it has the lowest recoil of any assault rifle. Unlike all other assault rifles, its recoil only moves to the right hand side instead of side to side meaning it is extremely manageable. Now this leads to its extreme over-usage and hence the calls for nerf. That said, people who call nerf because they die to it do annoy me...

[SaNE]

What do you suggest then?

Hope? Asking them, pleading with them, trying to compromise with them have all failed.

At the moment (though being fixed in an upcoming patch) the m16 is the single most used gun in the game as it has the lowest recoil of any assault rifle.

Looking forward to seeing how they 'fix' it... If it's like anything else they 'fix' it will be fixed again no doubt.

[Vitamin K]

Unfortunately, some guns ARE more powerful than others. At the moment (though being fixed in an upcoming patch) the m16 is the single most used gun in the game as it has the lowest recoil of any assault rifle. Unlike all other assault rifles, its recoil only moves to the right hand side instead of side to side meaning it is extremely manageable. Now this leads to its extreme over-usage and hence the calls for nerf. That said, people who call nerf because they die to it do annoy me...

How is it unfortunate? All guns have their strengths and weaknesses.

How **** boring would a game be if all the guns have the same speed, recoil, damage?
You may as well just have 1 gun in the game.

[Disco LT]

Yeah I'm getting sick of all the whingers too, though admittedly I did my fair share of whining about that.. SPAS 12 with the frag rounds in metro. Last time I played BF the weapons all seemed fairly balanced, but of course some are going to be different to others, just like they are IRL.

[Long John]

Unfortunately, some guns ARE more powerful than others. At the moment (though being fixed in an upcoming patch) the m16 is the single most used gun in the game as it has the lowest recoil of any assault rifle. Unlike all other assault rifles, its recoil only moves to the right hand side instead of side to side meaning it is extremely manageable. Now this leads to its extreme over-usage and hence the calls for nerf. That said, people who call nerf because they die to it do annoy me...

It does not mean that the M16 is more powerful. It is a starting gun and players get used to it and keep coming back because its what they know. Granted some maps and game modes you see this, but many you don't. A team full of assault players running around with M16's wont do well against a tanks and there are better choices for CQB weapons available.

[llllTrooperllll]

I love the M16's, but they are by far the best and easiest weapons to use. It sounds like some people are saying that if you are up against someone with an M16A3 then your already dead? Well, i don't think so, i love tearing it up with the MP7! comes back to the individual player really.

PS. The mp7 sounds Hot in this game

[steve_rogers42]

G3A3 > All M16 variants.

That is all.

[revengous]

my silenced sniper rifle is dah bomb.

[llllTrooperllll]

I do hit the deck every time i hear that 'crack' from a sniper rifle!

i and several others were banned from a server last night, must of been my OP MP7!! I suppose that will happen with 13yr old server Admins who don't like to be spanked!

My banning reason was: sus

[Long John]

If anything should be nerfed I reckon pistols need it. I have lost count of how many times I have laid into a sniper at close range only to have them kill me with a pistol.

[iambeanie]

Looking forward to seeing how they 'fix' it... If it's like anything else they 'fix' it will be fixed again no doubt.

They are adding side to side recoil so that sustained fire is nowhere near as viable. As well, the recoil is being increased from 0.2 to 0.25 which will make it far less effective at range but yes.... most likely going to be a very long work in progress.

How is it unfortunate? All guns have their strengths and weaknesses.

How **** boring would a game be if all the guns have the same speed, recoil, damage?
You may as well just have 1 gun in the game.

I think you've missed the point. All guns do have strengths and weaknesses but the m16's 'weakness' is barely noticeable, resulting in it being the 1 gun in the game that people use. The unfortunate part is that there are other guns but to be at the top of your game then its the goto weapon for most people. Leads to bugger all variety and gets boring VERY quickly.

It does not mean that the M16 is more powerful. It is a starting gun and players get used to it and keep coming back because its what they know. Granted some maps and game modes you see this, but many you don't. A team full of assault players running around with M16's wont do well against a tanks and there are better choices for CQB weapons available.

Its not just people coming back to a gun they're used to, when you rank up you spend very little time on the first weapon before unlocking the next. This is especially try in competitive play where 95% of players are m16 users and ~5% use the AEK or other random guns. For the most part i play on rush maps where there are more drawn battle lines and less vehicles so it becomes far more evident but i can see what you mean.