iPhone 5 discussion thread

[PalZer0]

The iPhone 5 is coming.

Aussies will be able to get hold of it through Telstra, Optus and Vodafone on September 21.

Outright, it'll cost this much:
16GB: $799
32GB: $899
64GB: $999

You'll need a nano SIM for the iPhone 5.
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/25797/app ... index.html

There's also a new connector for the iPhone 5. It'll also come preloaded with iOS 6 from my understanding.

You can watch the iPhone 5 keynote here (where new iPods and a new iTunes were also revealed):
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2012/

[Ninja Catfish]

This is going to be the first iPhone I buy outright. Normally i do it with a plan, but circumstances are preventing that...
I also conveniently got 21 September organised off work by chance a month ago, so good work on your part, past Catfish!
I'm still working out whether I want to go online, do midnight, or just Friday morning to grab mine. Shall work it out over the next week.

[Sathias]

I've seen nothing that would tempt me back from the Android camp. They are relying on having a rabid fanbase who will accept minor improvements as a reason to upgrade IMO.

[Novocaine]

I'm just waiting to see if Samsung will sue them for using 4g.

[SaNE]

Here's what changed when they 'started from scratch'.
It's taller for a 5th row of apps, lucky are those who can hold it and use all 5+1 rows without awkward thumb/grip.
Thinner but not by any means the thinnest phone.
Metal back plate (technically uni-body), which looks garbage and like the iPhone 4 but worse.
New processor, uses marginally less battery.
A smaller battery, for less standby and talk.
iOS6 (because they were really out of numbers after 5.1.1).
Supports LTE Globally, different versions for different country (that's like, an amazing feature man).
8mp Camera up from 5mp.
A different connector which names the same as Thunderbolt, looks worse than the 30 pin for docking (they do have an adapter which you can purchase though, probably with a 20+ dollar price tag).
Different placement of the headphone jack (that's a feature).
A new sim, they decided they should have made it as small as possible from the get go.
And 189 more 'features' that may or may not exist:

On the other hand, Apple’s response to false advertising, at least in the case about their iPhone 3G’s “Twice as fast for half the price” claim, was as follows, “Plaintiff’s claims, and those of the purported class, are barred by the fact that the alleged deceptive statements were such that no reasonable person in Plaintiff’s position could have reasonably relied on or misunderstood Apple’s statements as claims of fact,” In other words, Apple says you’re a fool for believing their advertisements.

Here's what's missing.
Innovation.
NFC (which would have been good, if Apple did it, it would be adopted far quicker).
Battery Life.
A new design (it should be called 4G).

They've really dropped the ball with it and as such the Lumia is by far the most Innovative phone this year, just need to find out how well Windows Phone 8 works and whether to go Windows or Android.

I'm just waiting to see if Samsung will sue them for using 4g.

And HTC, though it's probably going to be a matter of "these other countries are suing our American company, side with America", forgetting that Google and MSFT benefit from both HTC and Samsung devices along with all Andriod Phones.

[Ninja Catfish]

I've seen nothing that would tempt me back from the Android camp. They are relying on having a rabid fanbase who will accept minor improvements as a reason to upgrade IMO.

I could say the same about Galaxy S2 vs 3 to be honest. If faster CPU/larger screen/4G support are just minor improvements that only the rabid will eat up, how is Samsung's Galaxy S3 any more of an improvement over it's predecessor?

[Ninja Catfish]

Here's what changed when they 'started from scratch'.
It's taller for a 5th row of apps, lucky are those who can hold it and use all 5+1 rows without awkward thumb/grip.

So Samsung's Galaxy S3, the closest competitor, which has a screen that is wider and taller than the iPhone 5, would be worse yeah?

Metal back plate (technically uni-body), which looks garbage and like the iPhone 4 but worse.

Subjective. I happen to quite like the aluminium, especially the black. Much nicer than then gross flimsy plastic used in other phones, and will be more durable than the glass back panel of the 4.

New processor, uses marginally less battery.

And has near double the performance. I don't see this as a negative.

A smaller battery, for less standby and talk.

The iPhone 5 has a better battery life than the 4S...

iOS6 (because they were really out of numbers after 5.1.1).

iOS6 is a major release, not a point update. Typically point updates for operating systems are for bug fixes, not for a laundry list of new features.

Supports LTE Globally, different versions for different country (that's like, an amazing feature man).

A necessity given the different types of 4G used throughout the world. At least I'll get the same CPU in the iPhone 5 regardless of where I buy it from.

A different connector which names the same as Thunderbolt, looks worse than the 30 pin for docking (they do have an adapter which you can purchase though, probably with a 20+ dollar price tag).[/quote
Looks worse? It's a cable :\

Here's what's missing.

Battery Life.

As said earlier, the battery life is *better* than the iPhone 4S.

They've really dropped the ball with it and as such the Lumia is by far the most Innovative phone this year, just need to find out how well Windows Phone 8 works and whether to go Windows or Android.

How is the Lumia 'innovative'? A wider range of colours counts as innovation now?

[Fireslide]

Yeah I was pretty underwhelmed by what they've done. They made it thinner/lighter/faster, but they haven't improved it's functionality with new features like NFC. Having it slightly longer with an extra row of icons, wooo!

I can sort of see why they are trying to sue the pants off everyone, because their innovation was in redefining what the phone is and how users interact with it. Now that every other competitor has cottoned on to this style of thinking, they'll be able to do it just as well as Apple does.

Basically, apples innovation got them the best seat at the mobile phone table when they previous had none, but now they need to keep actually innovating to keep that seat.

[SaNE]

Basically, apples innovation got them the best seat at the mobile phone table when they previous had none, but now they need to keep actually innovating to keep that seat.

Exactly, without Steve being the innovator (or master chef of technology) that he was I don't see a very good future for Apple.

So Samsung's Galaxy S3, the closest competitor, which has a screen that is wider and taller than the iPhone 5, would be worse yeah?

Yes, doesn't change that it's larger for not much use and the resolution is pretty ****.

I happen to quite like the aluminium, especially the black. Much nicer than then gross flimsy plastic used in other phones, and will be more durable than the glass back panel of the 4.

I would like it if it looked like the original iPhone, it however looks like a concept art picture that they've forgotten to use the paintbucket tool on.

And has near double the performance. I don't see this as a negative.
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The iPhone 5 has a better battery life than the 4S...

I've yet to see a benchmark that shows it's double the performance (I'd like a link) and having a marginally better battery than the last means nothing when the last has **** battery life.

iOS6 is a major release, not a point update. Typically point updates for operating systems are for bug fixes, not for a laundry list of new features.

That's the point, it's very ambiguous to call it a major update.
The only thing I can see that would make it a 'major release' is that they've removed the default Youtube and replaced Maps with another Maps which is essentially the same Maps just with a Blue line instead of the Pin.

A necessity given the different types of 4G used throughout the world. At least I'll get the same CPU in the iPhone 5 regardless of where I buy it from.

I didn't indicate that it wasn't, however it's hardly a feature that you tout about. "I'm selling this phone, it won't work in your country but we're selling it there anyway"...
So they are just doing what anyone would do to sell phones in different countries and they call it innovative and a feature? Yeah no.

Looks worse? It's a cable :\

It's a connector, which your phone is supported by when you dock it on the various docks, using the new connector with less surface area added with the adapter, it's going to be very... interesting to see how many are broken.

As said earlier, the battery life is *better* than the iPhone 4S.

As I said, the 4S has **** battery life and having slightly better isn't good enough.

How is the Lumia 'innovative'? A wider range of colours counts as innovation now?

If you have to ask "How is the Lumia 'innovative'?" it means you haven't looked at it at all.

If you look at the phone without using your fan boy glasses, you will see that it's a pretty big failure for customers and smart phones in General.

[Ninja Catfish]

Save me the trouble.
Apart from Windows Phone 8 (which is not Nokia's work), wireless charging, and a nice camera (apparently not nice enough to actually use it in the advertisements), please tell me exactly what is so innovative about the new Lumias?

I'm open to persuasion.

[diamondd]

What's so innovative about anything? Nothing if you're going to look at it like that

[Novocaine]

I'm open to persuasion.

I don't see that happening, I'm pretty sure you're the biggest apple fanboy on these forums. :lol:

[Disco LT]

I went from an iPhone 3GS to a 4S and there was a decent enough difference to make me happy, particularly the screen (have you tried looking at a 3GS lately? it's painful). As for the iPhone 5.. I don't think I could care less about the new one, and to be honest if I was looking at straying away from Apple I'd be heading over to Android and probably a Galaxy S3.

[Chucky]

[Sathias]

lol Chucky ... could put a handle on it and use it as a cricket bat