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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby DarkMellie » 18 Jul 12, 7:57 pm

Thanks heaps for cleaning up my post brim!


Turns out I'm not quite the heli-hipster and have the Steam version of BS (v 1.0.2) so I went to my payments in ED and saw the BS2 upgrade. I'm downloading that and can hopefully just run that over the top of the wrong one I'd already installed.

Very keen for some flight action tonight, anyone on?
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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby brimlad » 19 Jul 12, 9:32 am

np Mellie, I'll add more in the coming days; been having some fun with the mission editor, you can really setup some nice battles and now that you can actually take control of the land battle through CA I'm keen to build a few more scenarios.

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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby DarkMellie » 19 Jul 12, 10:13 am

I'm very interested in learning more about my radio-stack. I've used TACAN (I think) for aerial refueling, but would like to learn more about ILS, JTAC and so on (especially seeing as iControl DCS has the radio-stacks built-in).

With JTAC it's all about the 9-line to me, but what else does it do?
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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby brimlad » 19 Jul 12, 12:20 pm

DarkMellie wrote: With JTAC it's all about the 9-line to me, but what else does it do?
JTAC as I understand is purely for target designation and will take either of 3 types of control of the attack in dcs depending on the situation. After you make contact with JTAC via the radio you get the terminal control type then the 9 line designating the target after which you will recieve the remarks regarding the target, such as weather etc, then after the read back you get a target on your TAD lock in your spi and accept the task.
It may have other uses but my knowledge of radio use is pretty thin as I tend to use easy communication mode as typing in frequencies has never been that appealing.

icontrol is meant to be very good and they have an ipad version now that will appeal to a few, almost worth buying an ipad.

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Re: DCS World

Unread postby DarkMellie » 19 Jul 12, 12:37 pm

Cheers Brim.

iControl is simply amazing but only usable in singleplayer and the advertising for it is very misleading. What it does is extract a duplicate of what's on the MFCD's/CDU and Radio Stack which you have to place on your screen (so that's three big static windows) and then the iControl server on your computer points your iPad to display exactly that area but also relay what button you're touching.

It works super smoothly and you do get used to having the screens fixed on top of the game window. You'll notice in the developers vids he has three monitors and the right half of the right monitor is off-cam? That's here his extracted screens are hidden. Obviously it would be excellent for a 3 monitor display but even on one monitor I still really enjoy not having to lean forward to use my mouse all the time.

EDIT: on my earlier issue (in-case this helps), what I did to fix my BS2 issue was to go to my Payments page on ED, download the correct BS2 Upgrade Module... once that was installed, because I hadn't deactivated any licenses both the BS2 and the A10 worked fine.
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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby brimlad » 19 Jul 12, 6:28 pm

so why can't you use icontrol in multiplayer ?
I've never used it but the touch screen concept does look appealing, I did run a second monitor for Shkval and Abris with Black shark when I had a 24" main monitor but since I moved to 27" I haven't bothered.

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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby [PwR]..DJ.. » 19 Jul 12, 8:26 pm

Russian?.. I have problems sorting out the English stuff....... comrade.








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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby DarkMellie » 19 Jul 12, 8:37 pm

brimlad wrote:so why can't you use icontrol in multiplayer ?
I've never used it but the touch screen concept does look appealing, I did run a second monitor for Shkval and Abris with Black shark when I had a 24" main monitor but since I moved to 27" I haven't bothered.

cheers :)

Is that difficult to do with a second monitor? I have 2 and would love to have the Shkval especially on a second screen.

And something about how it utilises code from A10 to make the iPad happen conflicts with ED's anti-cheat software and it's something they want to, but cannot fix at this stage.
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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby URAUC » 20 Jul 12, 7:50 am

brimlad wrote:
DarkMellie wrote: With JTAC it's all about the 9-line to me, but what else does it do?
JTAC as I understand is purely for target designation and will take either of 3 types of control of the attack in dcs depending on the situation. After you make contact with JTAC via the radio you get the terminal control type then the 9 line designating the target after which you will recieve the remarks regarding the target, such as weather etc, then after the read back you get a target on your TAD lock in your spi and accept the task.


I have been trying to complete the JTAC missions and have had more luck entering the lat long from the 9 line into the CDU and then making that a steer point than slewing to the target on the TAD. Obviously the lat long would be more accurate but takes longer as you have to enter it manually. I have tried designating from the TAD with it zoomed in to increase the accuracy but it still seems to introduce a significant distance between target and where the laser points to initially. Any ideas?
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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby DarkMellie » 20 Jul 12, 8:36 am

From what I've read, manually entering the 9-line is the best way to do it.

Will put up a youtube resource thread across the weekend, I've been favouriting the best videos :D
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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby brimlad » 20 Jul 12, 10:09 am

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DarkMellie wrote: With JTAC it's all about the 9-line to me, but what else does it do?
JTAC as I understand is purely for target designation and will take either of 3 types of control of the attack in dcs depending on the situation. After you make contact with JTAC via the radio you get the terminal control type then the 9 line designating the target after which you will recieve the remarks regarding the target, such as weather etc, then after the read back you get a target on your TAD lock in your spi and accept the task.
I have been trying to complete the JTAC missions and have had more luck entering the lat long from the 9 line into the CDU and then making that a steer point than slewing to the target on the TAD. Obviously the lat long would be more accurate but takes longer as you have to enter it manually. I have tried designating from the TAD with it zoomed in to increase the accuracy but it still seems to introduce a significant distance between target and where the laser points to initially. Any ideas?
The only way to be accurate is to enter the utm into the cdu, bank into a turn and switch on your autopilot to hold that orbit and give yourself the time to enter the data correctly; slewing will probably take you more time and as you've found not very accurate.

and Mellie include the maverick tubes by the 104th phoenix, I think there are 3 and probably the best I've seen on using the mav.

DarkMellie wrote:Is that difficult to do with a second monitor? I have 2 and would love to have the Shkval especially on a second screen.
multimonitor setup is fairly straight forward, essentially you create a .lua file defining the combined resolution space and allocate the abris and shkval space on that resolution. this is the guide that most use:
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=60815

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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby brimlad » 20 Jul 12, 6:45 pm

DCS World is now on the GON file library, do try and then buy

link is in the op

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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby URAUC » 23 Jul 12, 3:34 pm

Well, just finished installing 1.2.0 the A10 module and TrackIR. The TrackIR is going to take a little while to get used to. I have been using the icontrol DCS app on my ipad for the MFCDs and such but was trying to get that running concurrently with a Helios profile, does anyone know if this is possible? I could only seem to get one or the other working(i.e when helios profile was working the MFCD controls on iControl did not function) when I was trying before so for the moment have gone back to just using icontrol. However if icontrol doesn't work in multiplayer I need to find any easy way to switch between the helios profiles and icontrol.
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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby v4moose » 23 Jul 12, 4:05 pm

what exactly is this MFCDs business?

I see the options in the display settings about MFCD to the right and to the left... though when i tried one it just squished the picture to half the screen with the other blank...

in other news... tracking information tells me my x-52 has landed and disembarking at the gate. Now the game of 'wait for work to finish' begins... :/
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Re: DCS World & Modules FAQ

Unread postby URAUC » 23 Jul 12, 4:17 pm

If this is in icontrol, you can have your MFCDs and CDU displayed on your extended desktop or virtual monitor and then repeated to your ipad. In the display settings just drag your normal cockpit view out on your main monitor to fill the screen then drag the MFCDs off onto your extended desktop. Hover your mouse over them and it will tell you the x.y reference. You can then use this reference for the ipad to look to so your MFCDs appear on your ipad. Just right click and choose set positions manually and it will then let you enter your x,y references. Not sure if I've made that very clear or not sorry.
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