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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby cdkit3 » 7 Aug 12, 8:39 am

Another reason why the guys were so excited is that typically mars probes have a ~30-40% success rate, with America ~60-70%. That is why they were so excited. Imagine if you had just spent 8 years of your life working tirelessly on something which only has a 30-70% of succeeding, and then to see it go to complete perfection, of course you are going to be absolutely thrilled.

I did read an article today (Just received permission to post re-distribute it), which outlined that this is an event which is possibly more important than previous efforts, as there is quite a bit of 'debate' in the states at the moment around Science being 'Optional' and that such an event is something which will hopefully draw people back into appreciating and understanding the amazing outcomes which human endevour and science can achieve.

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As you are no doubt aware, at 1:38 a.m. this morning, NASA and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory/Caltech succeeded in landing a one-ton rover named Curiosity on the surface of Mars. This effort required years of scientific, technical and engineering preparation, resulting in a novel multi-stage process for getting heavy equipment onto the red planet, rife with steps which, if any failed, would likely cause mission failure.

The landing occurred without a single problem, including minutes during the critical last phases of the flight when the spacecraft was out of communications with Earth and ran autonomously.

While this effort will no doubt have a great impact in improving our knowledge of the Mars geology and surface, including habitability for future human missions, and perhaps information on past life in the targeted crater, there is a deeper meaning to this effort:
Science is reality.

At a time when a large and increasing fraction of the U.S. population does not "believe in" science (i.e., objectively provable reality) - or, worse, has bought into the idea that science is just one choice on the reality menu - NASA has again given concrete reason to understand that science works, and that science is not an option, not a theory, not a menu item, but instead represents the finest efforts of human minds in understanding, and addressing, objective reality.

Those on Earth who currently think that science is a political football should take note: not only are you endangering your own reputation, you are endangering the welfare of your constituents, and today, of the planet itself.

Any person or party which mocks science should be considered for what he or it is: a threat to the welfare and future of us all. Under the influence of political propagandists, misled religious zealots, and truly dangerous television and radio empires (such as Fox (Not) News and Rush Limbaugh), too many people today have been led to believe that science is in some way an option to opinion.

Science is as optional as gravity. Ignorance is the only real option.

It is time for the U.S. to catch back up to the world in this matter, and recognize the value of scientific study and theory, the use of scientific consensus in guiding public policy, and the wonders that we can achieve when we abandon self-aggrandizing political fantasy in favor of objective scientific knowledge.

We should use this marvelous achievement to create a new cultural change in the United States, returning us to the group intelligence of past eras, when no one doubted that an experiment, done with the same result several times, demonstrated an objective truth. Not an opinion, not a religious position, not a political chip, but another addition to human scientific knowledge.

The world owes much to the people of NASA, of JPL, and to the taxpayers of the U.S., who have achieved the most important step in space exploration yet attempted. This was done by a willing and informed government, working with private contractors, paid for with taxes. It stands as one of the greatest of tributes to human intelligence yet achieved, shoulder to shoulder with decoding the human genome.

I highly recommend that you take a moment to watch the scene inside JPL headquarters in Pasadena, as Curiosity makes its way safely to the Martian surface. We owe a great deal to those pictured in their moment of triumph, and citizens of the U.S. owe it to themselves, if they wish to remain a great nation, to put a rapid end to the rise of ignorance in their country which threatens scientific endeavor, and the acceptance of scientific findings.

Our thanks go out to all of the people who, using Science, Technology, Engineering and Math, just flew a car-sized laboratory across the solar system, landed it safely at the end of four lines under a crane under a rocket under a parachute, to bring us yet more scientific knowledge about the world.

It is time for all Earth inhabitants to recognize the value of science. In doing so, we will find common ground for agreeing on other important things.

Here is the video:
<http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=149948191>
Long live Science.

Sincerely,
Mark Anderson
CEO, Strategic News Service
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Auld » 7 Aug 12, 8:51 am

I understand they've had to re-position a satellite in order to maintain a decent connection with Curiousity, BUT.....anyone else disappointed with the lack of hi-res colour photos from Mars?

Broadband out there must suck :twisted:
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby cdkit3 » 7 Aug 12, 9:06 am

Auld wrote:I understand they've had to re-position a satellite in order to maintain a decent connection with Curiousity, BUT.....anyone else disappointed with the lack of hi-res colour photos from Mars?

Broadband out there must suck :twisted:


Yeah, but they still have 2 years to send back lots of pictures ;).

I'm just waiting on the anti-FTTH brigade to jump on the bandwagon saying 'They can use wireless to send images from Mars, that means we should be able to use it for the NBN too :lol:
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Auld » 7 Aug 12, 9:28 am

Youtube vid of the descent -
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Mekon » 7 Aug 12, 9:56 am

Auld wrote:I understand they've had to re-position a satellite in order to maintain a decent connection with Curiousity, BUT.....anyone else disappointed with the lack of hi-res colour photos from Mars?


Curiosity's Twitter wrote:FYI, I aim to send bigger, color pictures from Mars later this week once I've got my head up & Mastcam active #MSL


Getting the hi-gain antenna up is next on the schedule, as I understand it.
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Sathias » 7 Aug 12, 10:13 am

That's it, the thing just landed when they got that pic. The connection would be saturated with plenty of data at that point, hires pics are not exactly the highest priority 5 minutes after landing. My understanding is that it is going to take at least a week to get it fully set up, longer again before it is mobile. Then about 5 mins before anon hijack it and drive it into a ditch :grin:
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Bicketybam » 7 Aug 12, 12:54 pm

I so wanted to watch this yesterday but got distracted and forgot all about it. I'm so glad it worked, just hope they don't drive it into a rock or something this time. :P

I loved this advert that was made when the rover went to Mars, pure classic. Can't wait to see what others dream up this time.




Sathias wrote: My understanding is that it is going to take at least a week to get it fully set up, longer again before it is mobile. Then about 5 mins before anon hijack it and drive it into a ditch :grin:


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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Spooler » 7 Aug 12, 8:22 pm

On picture quality
The pictures we are getting today of things like mount sharp are far higher resolution but it is at-lest a week before we will see full hi res colour images the black and white pictures have been taken with hazard cams and were only sent back to give NASA the best possible idea of what situation the lander was/is in, and before the antenna was deployed the only way to send information back to earth was with a very small window of opportunity to use the satellites orbiting mars to send as much diagnostic information as possible back, hence why the images were such low resolution.

They had less than a 1 minute window to get as much information on where the rover was and what condition it was in picture quality was not a high priority
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Ralph Wiggum » 7 Aug 12, 9:50 pm

Collection of memes regarding the Mars landing :lol:

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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Bicketybam » 8 Aug 12, 12:57 pm

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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby jambo » 8 Aug 12, 2:54 pm

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Also here's an awesome panorama view of Mars from the new rover

http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/greeley-haven.html
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Mekon » 8 Aug 12, 4:05 pm

jambo wrote:Also here's an awesome panorama view of Mars from the new rover

http://www.panoramas.dk/mars/greeley-haven.html

That's actually the older rover, Opportunity: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2012-196
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Re: Mars Cusriosity Lander | Landing soon, live streams

Unread postby Otto-matic » 14 Aug 12, 3:27 pm

There are an annoying number of fake pictures floating around.

In terms of real pictures, I think this is best so far from Curiosity http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6753 ... 9_full.jpg
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