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SOPA, PIPA bill withdrawn due to 'public pushback'.

Unread postby Artful-dodgeR » 21 Jan 12, 5:07 am

http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is- ... ulls-bill/

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http://www.thedailygreenburgh.com/news/ ... gillibrand

Happened about an hour or so ago, so my question to you is do you think sanity has prevailed or is this just a stalling tactic as they re-introduce the same thing under a new name with the same old ****?
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Unread postby Novocaine » 21 Jan 12, 5:12 am

Maybe they're scared of Anonymous.
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Unread postby Mekon » 21 Jan 12, 10:22 am

Artful-dodgeR wrote:my question to you is do you think sanity has prevailed or is this just a stalling tactic as they re-introduce the same thing under a new name with the same old ****?

They are still pushing ahead with the underlying intent: see the recent takedown of Megaupload.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/story ... 52697186/1
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Unread postby skitzor » 21 Jan 12, 4:02 pm

Artful-dodgeR wrote:Happened about an hour or so ago, so my question to you is do you think sanity has prevailed or is this just a stalling tactic as they re-introduce the same thing under a new name with the same old ****?

it's name is "Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting ... ct_of_2011

some people say there is a risk that people could mash parts (or even all) of the SOPA/PIPA bills in there, and no one would have the balls to oppose anti-child pornography legislation. even if this doesn't happen, it's a fairly intrusive piece of legislation.
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Unread postby Nekosan » 21 Jan 12, 4:09 pm

Mekon wrote:
Artful-dodgeR wrote:my question to you is do you think sanity has prevailed or is this just a stalling tactic as they re-introduce the same thing under a new name with the same old ****?

They are still pushing ahead with the underlying intent: see the recent takedown of Megaupload.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/story ... 52697186/1


This^

They just went with the old "we'll just do it anyway and nobody can say ****" approach.
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Unread postby Sathias » 21 Jan 12, 4:31 pm

If you read the details about the people who were running Megaupload it's not really surprising they got brought down, even independent of these laws. The guy who ran the site was living in $30 million mansion ffs, and had multiple Ferraris :shock: They had chat logs of them obviously aware of pirated material on their network, and swapping it themselves. These guys were making an absolute mint off pirated material, which is always going to get the attention of the authorities, no matter what attitude we take to "casual" piracy and internet rights.

Info here, with pics of the mansion

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/police-fin ... 1qa8g.html
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Unread postby Nekosan » 21 Jan 12, 4:40 pm

Sathias wrote:If you read the details about the people who were running Megaupload it's not really surprising they got brought down, even independent of these laws. The guy who ran the site was living in $30 million mansion ffs, and had multiple Ferraris :shock: They had chat logs of them obviously aware of pirated material on their network, and swapping it themselves. These guys were making an absolute mint off pirated material, which is always going to get the attention of the authorities, no matter what attitude we take to "casual" piracy and internet rights.

Info here, with pics of the mansion

http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/police-fin ... 1qa8g.html



Oh I totally agree that megaupload had to go, it's hilarious that they got away with it for so long tbh.
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Unread postby Mekon » 21 Jan 12, 6:08 pm

Nekosan wrote:Oh I totally agree that megaupload had to go, it's hilarious that they got away with it for so long tbh.

But how is megaupload any different from...

filepost
rapidshare
filefront
depositfiles
4share
filebit
hotfile
fileserve
wupload
(etc)

Answer is - they're not, except they had more users (thus a greater recurring income). Any file sharing system is wide open to being used for... well, file sharing, either legal or not.

Plenty of people used megaupload for perfectly legitimate reasons (offsite backups, etc). Arguing that it was used by pirates, therefore is is a legitimate takedown is the same as arguing that all torrents should be blocked by the ISP.
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Unread postby Artful-dodgeR » 21 Jan 12, 8:29 pm

Mekon wrote:Plenty of people used megaupload for perfectly legitimate reasons (offsite backups, etc). Arguing that it was used by pirates, therefore is is a legitimate takedown is the same as arguing that all torrents should be blocked by the ISP.


Actually hearing a lot of stories coming about where people have lost countless photos, videos, work items, etc. Quite sad in some cases :-/
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Unread postby revengous » 22 Jan 12, 8:23 am

I thought megaupload was targeted because its main server was located in the USA?

in any rate, I saw on twitter that it was back
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Unread postby Chucky » 22 Jan 12, 8:30 am

revengous wrote:in any rate, I saw on twitter that it was back


Whoever told you that is tweetlying :dodgy:

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Unread postby Artful-dodgeR » 22 Jan 12, 8:47 am

megavideo.bz is their 'new' site hosted in Belize... according to anon news.
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Unread postby Chucky » 22 Jan 12, 8:52 am

Artful-dodgeR wrote:megavideo.bz is their 'new' site hosted in Belize... according to anon news.


Ahh it appears you are correct! :)
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Unread postby Sniper 2 » 22 Jan 12, 9:43 am

I did a search for a few files yesterday and the megauplaod link came up. When I clicked on the link I was redirected to a 4megaupload.com website and the rar file I wanted to download had a *.rar.exe extension to it. I wonder how many people became infected through this.
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