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Re: Qantas grounds all flights

Unread postby Mythor » 30 Oct 11, 11:56 am

About 96 per cent of votes were cast in favour of Qantas's executive pay card - which detailed executive pay and was the most contentious item at the meeting - despite unions and the Australian Shareholders' Association campaigning against it.
Source: http://www.theage.com.au/business/share ... z1cE8dUluB
Joyce is trying to run a profitable business, he has the support of the shareholders of said business and until this he was not actively interfering with the running of said company, unlike the unions.

If you choose not to work to make a point it's a bit rich to complain when the other side makes a counterpoint.
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Re: Qantas grounds all flights

Unread postby Marius » 30 Oct 11, 8:17 pm

Discostaya wrote:People who complain about the CEO getting a payrise need to remember that it was approved by the shareholders in a vote :roll:

People who complain about any political party being in power need to remember that it was approved by voters?

Voting is never a good argument for something. Rather, the merits of the particular decision should always be assessed outside of stakeholder approval.

My own views were fairly uncontroversial, I thought. If a company loses money under a CEO, then it is the CEO who is responsible, no one else. This is a fairly central leadership view.

If Qantas loses money under Alan Joyce, then he is to blame, and it is his responsibility to see this situation resolved -- not the government's or unions'. It follows from this that it may be that the pay rise was not justified if the company contracts by 50%. That's not what CEOs are paid to achieve.

As a business owner myself, I wouldn't dare trying to blame outside factors for my own performance. I can't blame the economy, government, clients or whatever else. But that's exactly what is happening here.

That's my main criticism of Qantas here... all their press releases point fingers, and it's conduct which in no way justifies pay rises.
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Re: Qantas grounds all flights

Unread postby ub3r » 31 Oct 11, 9:13 am

96% of Qantas shares are owned by private investment firms who nearly AWLAYS comply with board descisions
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Re: Qantas grounds all flights

Unread postby Bato » 31 Oct 11, 11:18 am

Mythor wrote:
About 96 per cent of votes were cast in favour of Qantas's executive pay card - which detailed executive pay and was the most contentious item at the meeting - despite unions and the Australian Shareholders' Association campaigning against it.
Source: http://www.theage.com.au/business/share ... z1cE8dUluB
Joyce is trying to run a profitable business, he has the support of the shareholders of said business and until this he was not actively interfering with the running of said company, unlike the unions.

If you choose not to work to make a point it's a bit rich to complain when the other side makes a counterpoint.


Do you know who those shareholders are?
JP Morgan, Chase Financial and co. They don't care about qantas, they care about a quick buck.
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