Post Election NBN

[skitzor]

I'm just going to assume that you don't know* - they started here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch


Beginning with one newspaper in Adelaide, Murdoch acquired and started other publications in his native Australia before expanding News Corp. into the United Kingdom, United States and Asian media markets. .... . Murdoch's first permanent foray into TV was in the USA, where he created Fox Broadcasting Company in 1986.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as ... orporation


*And Murdoch has been an American Citizen for longer than you've been alive - so it's kinda understandable...

but i doubt that particular tactic started here.

[SilverforceX]

How about aiming for a world class public transport system (I've been to japan twice, and they utterly shame our public transport sector) or heaven forbid, education and health system??

Its not small chump change, even if the government says "its only $26B in public funds", sif you can believe what they say given their track record. Heck, just some of that $26B can fund an incredible amount of research that will save countless lives and improve the living conditions for all humanity.

Fsakes some of you people have weird priorities.

Money spent in the NBN is money not spent elsewhere. Opportunity costs need to be factored in, unless you all think they can print endless $$ to pay for it all.

[revengous]

How about aiming for a world class public transport system (I've been to japan twice, and they utterly shame our public transport sector) or heaven forbid, education and health system??

Its not small chump change, even if the government says "its only $26B in public funds", sif you can believe what they say given their track record. Heck, just some of that $26B can fund an incredible amount of research that will save countless lives and improve the living conditions for all humanity.

Fsakes some of you people have weird priorities.

Money spent in the NBN is money not spent elsewhere. Opportunity costs need to be factored in, unless you all think they can print endless $$ to pay for it all.

someone hates catching the adelaide metro

try driving a car

[SilverforceX]

No, just these excuses such as "infrastructure/nation building" is a complete joke coming from people who obviously don't understand priorities. There are many other more beneficial nation building infrastructure than offering ADSL2 speeds to the few who can't access it. $$ is not an infinite resource.

Also, the lack of focus on wireless tech as the userbase soars is disgusting and will set us back much worse.

[MaddMoose]

$26B can fund an incredible amount of research that will save countless lives and improve the living conditions for all humanity.

Fsakes some of you people have weird priorities.

Probably should have a look into some of the applications for high speed internet.

[André Axe'm]

Money spent on X is money not spent on Y.

[MaddMoose]

You guys know that the NBN isn't being funded out of the budget. So if the money wasn't being spent on the NBN it wouldn't be being spent on anything else.

[AzzA82]

I keep getting teased by internode, sending me NBN offers for the townsville roll out. Bah checked map again im still 2 streets out of the zone.



So close yet so far

[Mekon]

checked map again im still 2 streets out of the zone.

Time to move.

[Drakand]

I keep getting teased by internode, sending me NBN offers for the townsville roll out. Bah checked map again im still 2 streets out of the zone.



So close yet so far

my suburb doesn't even get me teasing offers, you must be in a better part of townsville than i am

[Otto-matic]

Got a flyer from my local rep saying I should get it within 12 months.

Most amusing thing on the flyer was how the zone edge went down the middle of a main road, except for this particular house and these 2 houses

[Marius]

How about aiming for a world class public transport system (I've been to japan twice, and they utterly shame our public transport sector) or heaven forbid, education and health system??

Ok, think about where education and commerce would be today if the same argument was applied to the move from dialup to ADSL.

Public transport is actually a response to a particular problem - traffic congestion.

I don't use public transport because ADSL allows me to work out of the city. So it's one less user clogging in up. And I'm not the only one.

And there's lots more benefits as well from faster internet. Benefits across medicine, research, energy production, and international trade competition.

Maybe ADSL seems 'fast' today, but back when we were on dialup we couldn't imagine the benefits created by ADSL... because they didn't yet exist.

[Bronze_D]

How about aiming for a world class public transport system (I've been to japan twice, and they utterly shame our public transport sector) or heaven forbid, education and health system??

what i think he didn't mention is that our internet and digital information network infrastructure is itself a shame compared to other developed or even some developing countries.

japan for instance have internet at blazing speed (to us anyway who are used to speed a fraction of it) at incredibly low cost...

but that's not entirely fair either because unlike japan we're much more spread out and our connection backbone have to cover significant distances whereas japan are much more condensed similar to south korea. (well that and they got cables above ground instead of under, makes things a hell a lot cheaper to deploy)

and like Marius mentioned, they had every reason for it and having efficient public transport, they CANNOT afford to not have them, with the incredibly dense population spread if they had neither then public congestion would rival that of India or China.

There's a good chunk of factors that are to be considered for something of this scale, he only saw the tip of it from the point of view of a citizen and missed the rest of it.