Finding it really hard to get into this

[jonlee]

I burnt myself out leveling from 1-20 in a day as a SM at early access. And now I'm only level 28. It just feels like I'm grinding all the time. While SM is easy to level it just feels like something's missing in this game but i'm not sure.

Finding Risen far more enjoyable at the moment. That or i've just burnt myself out on MMO's

[LeX]

I gave up on this game at level 32, the constant grind is not for me and most of the quests are a huge run around for very little xp. some quests i could of killed 4 mobs and got the same xp has the whole stupid boring quest i did.

In the end i had to work out if the end game was going to be worth the huge time investment. From whet i could see the end game will be ganking, zerging and forts so outside of fort timers all you get for your investment is ganking and zerg fights.

Its a good game if you don't mind grinding none stop for weeks, maybe even months.

[Blaze56]

Seems alot of people go into this game thinking i played the World of warcraft, it was so ezy they handed me max lvl wif lots of ezemode features all mmos must be tis ezy. no.

But yea, Thier is quite alot of grind in thier especially 30+ so if u start to feel the burn Sub 30 its prolly a good idea to call it quits. Although in the next patch Quests are getting fairly Considerable boosts. However if you dont like to grind its not the game for you.

[nudge]

So you are saying that grinding is 'hard' and questing etc is 'easy'? I'm in the same boat, got to 20, pretty good flow, nothing seemed to take to long. After that I got sick of the grind at 25 and my understanding is that it would have only gotten worse.

So that, adding to the lag and queues was enough to make me quit.

Bring on good story driven leveling please (prays to Bioware)

[snex]

Questing is grinding, to be honest, unless you're doing an incredibly epic quest worthy of a SP RPG. Alas, that is something that probably won't ever happen in MMORPG simply because you're not the main character in an MMORPG.

You grind in MMOs. Some just hide it relatively better than others. So complaining about having to grind is almost like complaining about having to gather resources in an RTS.

Oh, and no, just because it takes relatively longer to level in Aion does not mean it takes more skill.

[Fable]

this game kinda promote solo grinding, since there are no party exp bonuse. i only part for quest and pvp ganking lol.

almost got my sm to 35... didnt grind much so i level slow.

[Plonker]

I'm not having much joy, admittedly I've only had the game a couple of days although I was expecting it to be a bit more polished being released in Korea for over a year now. Combat feels clunky to me and the classes and quests/story aren't exactly inspired, it's rather standard fair. Little things like the inability to allow auto looting without holding down "shift", and having to click the confirmation when picking up quest items while grouped is starting to **** me.

The epic chat spam is ridiculous, and while it doesn't bother me too much as I just turn those channels off, it makes the mind boggle that the support staff are letting stuff like that continue in their game. Makes me wonder how much the game will be supported going forward if they can't manage to address this problem that basically ruins any communication outside of legions/groups.

Graphics are nice for the most part, but I'm not really that impressed with them. I remember player Lord of the Rings Online and marveling at some of the locations, I think I was expecting more from Aion. The character creator is grand but in-game all the PCs just seem to blend in together and don't really appeal. Limited control over the interface is a bit of a downer too. Not bothering to include swim animations which result in your just walking along the bottom of a lake.. what kind of immersion is that?

Might be too early to make a call on the game, so will keep plodding along and see if it can change my mind, but can't see it holding my interest long term.

Sorry for the brain dump.

[Xinen]

Learn to group. Find a good guild and grinding becomes alot less boring because you can do it in a group with friends. Go do instances, those are good xp. This whole soloing for xp thing is fine if you enjoy soloing but it's even better xp being in a good group killing elites and bout 500 times less boring. I've done most of my levels 38+ in groups and it's alot of fun working towards a boss in an instance while getting a solid 60k xp per kill.

Honestly 15 hours for a level at 40+ isn't bad. WoW is the only big mmo to have an emphasis on easy leveling. The slower the leveling pace the more it means something when someone hits max level. I get that WoW did this so as to cator to casuals more and people who couldn't play enough to hit max level quickly but if you really want this sort of gameplay than why not just play WoW.

In EQ it took months to hit max level even if you played all day but when you did finally hit it, it really meant something. There's no reason you have to rush to 50 either, you can always take it at your own pace and do alot of rifting along the way for fun.

I'll say it right now, if you want a game where things are quick and tasks are easy to accomplish than this game isn't for you. It's not WoW and hopefully will never take that aspect of WoW.

[Jnr]

If I just may add my two cents here; (I'm not taking sides)

WoW is easy leveling, partly due to the fact of the large amount of varied quests you have. You have your simple kill and travel quests, but then you have all the other type of quests which make the game playable and rather enjoyable, hence why people consider it "easy leveling" because, in my opinion, the more enjoyable and entertaining a game is, the less you get bored, and you don't keep track of time, it seems to fly by.

And another thing, WoW has MANY end-game instances.

[Skorpion]

WoW had some good quest chains though, definitely setting the trend for MMO's. One I remember (a low level one admittedly) was finding about what happened to Stormwind's king. Those kind of quests I actually wanted to do even if the XP reward wasnt as good, as opposed to the go here kill x beasts for y item

You even had that retaking the undercity one or whatever, something that sounds immensely interesting even though ive never done it

I think that needs to be the step forward; having engaging and immersive game content which also leads to you gaining XP / levelling up. As it is you're sort of just going through the motions and autopiloting your way through grind type quests and content

[Xinen]

Missing the point =/ It's not WoW and isn't trying to be like WoW. That's what makes it so great, it cators to the guys who want the difficulty and accomplishment that they got in MMOs such a EQ, EQ2 and Daoc.

From what I've seen, a large majority of the higher levels I've grouped with so far are guys who started MMOs way before WoW and enjoy Aion due to the fact it mimics alot of the dynamics they miss out on in WoW.

WoW is great and no mmo is ever going to beat it for overall accessibility and convenience but we need to let WoW be WoW and not try to turn every other game into a WoW clone. People such as myself play Aion because it isn't WoW.

As much as I did enjoy WoW, I missed the epicness of hitting 60 in EQ. Hitting 60 in EQ meant alot, no one at 60 was a horribly bad player because by that point in time they had leveled enough to get 10 max level characters in WoW.

I missed the epic accomplishment from finally getting that one item from that random mob that spawns once at night on the 5th day when the moon aligns once per 3 days on a random chance to spawn timer.

I miss the grind groups, the chat as we grinded xp/alternate achievement points together and the community it built as a result of our relying on each other so often.

I missed the lack of UI mods that told you exactly where you stood on aggro thereby negating the need to learn how much aggro each of your skills contributed.

This is why Aion is great and why I play it now.

[GattsBeRserK]

Amen Xinen, exactly the same reason i play. WoW vanilla was fantastic, in no way do i deny that, most probably my funnest time in any MMO. However with BC and more importantly WotLK, it drifted from a casual/hardcore MMO to a super easy casual game hehe. Hate the hard modes also. If your guild isnt equipped and co-ordinated enough you should NOT be able to run that instance and kill the SAME bosses imo. stick with kara . woah im ranting.....1am nrly haha.
Aion is fantastic, lvl 33 chanter, have not needed to grind yet Also in a few weeks or sooner theres the increased xp patch, not sure how much but ppl speculating 3-4x increased quest reward xp woohoo. Its the only part of aion im dissapointed with, oh and give chanters a frakking CC dammit!!

[nudge]

Questing is grinding, to be honest, unless you're doing an incredibly epic quest worthy of a SP RPG. Alas, that is something that probably won't ever happen in MMORPG simply because you're not the main character in an MMORPG.

I don't know, you are the main character in this MMO, unless you had it differently, the main quests that I have done had me as the leader of a legion who went up against the lord of the balurr (spelling?) and lost her memory in the fight. I have slowly regained my memory and there seemed to be a traitor in my legion etc.

So the story is there for more story driven quests... they just seem to like you going and doing a repeatable quest for no reward instead.

[snex]

And yet there are thousands of other amnesiac Daeva with the exact same back story running around with you.

[Dexterian]

Questing is grinding, to be honest, unless you're doing an incredibly epic quest worthy of a SP RPG. Alas, that is something that probably won't ever happen in MMORPG simply because you're not the main character in an MMORPG.

WRONG. SW:TOR. You are your own main character and everone else is an "extra" type thing. Even LotRO had that feeling where you felt above the other players when doing the quests together, you felt more of the main character than the others in your group. Yeah SW:TOR is breaking the usual mould of MMO's and giving players more of that feeling... that's not to say there won't be some type of grind to it. But it's not the type of grind people are referring to when they say grind.

Every MMO has a grind... it's when the grind feels like work that's the problem. You were grinding in Aion from 1-20... but it was the FLOW of the grind that made it enjoyable... I too am suffering from the 20+ woes of "grinding" - the flow has just seemed to dissapear and it's feeling like a chore. Even the quest stories in Aion are getting repetitive, that includes the campain story!

It's things like this that make LotRO/WoW enjoyable for players to level in because there's a flow... you never feel like your stuck in some sort of rip trying to find the flow again (Yes, using surf terminology ). That's not to say that WoW and LotRO are the same, They're different... I'm just using them as an example where the grind (to level) didn't feel too boring and slow.

And it has NOTHING to do with the game being "EZYMODE" - that has nothing to do with what the problem is.

This is why I'm looking forward to SW:TOR... was just hoping that Aion would make a good filler till then. I think I might go back to LotRO.