Best/fastest/expensive car you've driven

[hover_cat]

Do me a favor and find statistics that show a track or race day significantly reducing people racing on the streets.

Do us a favour and find one that says it has no effect.

No u. See, I can do that too.

Why are you trying to stop a movement for more track days?

Cause it will cost money and most likely not yield any benefit. Fact is people will still race on the streets, with or without a race track.

[D-.]

Do me a favor and find statistics that show a track or race day significantly reducing people racing on the streets.

In Sydney where it cost around $30 to go to a skidpan held once a month, (aside from drift events) there were a huge amount of enthusiasts that kept their skids/drifts/drags to the track.

I was speaking to a bloke at work yesterday who has a TT supra - he'd track his car if the option was available instead of skidding the streets..

You sound like you a poli. Are you? Are you Mike Rann, here to bring his fear campaign that modified cars = satan to the GON forums?

[hover_cat]

Yes, I am Mike Rann. Fear my laser eye beams.

The way I see it, there is two kindsa of people who would use a track/skid pan, drag strip.

The first is the responsible car enthusiest who wants to test the abilities of their car, but doesnt want to risk killing someone, thus taking their car to a track day or something similar.

The next is those who want to muck around in their cars and currently do so on the street. These people do so knowing they are breaking the law and endangering lives, yet do it anyway. These people may justify their actions saying they have no where else to go, but the fact that they are willing to risk killing other people for their own fun means that in reality, they dont give a **** about others and would be willing to do sop with or without a proper place to go.

[BarneyGumball]

Yes, I am Mike Rann. Fear my laser eye beams.

The way I see it, there is two kindsa of people who would use a track/skid pan, drag strip.

The first is the responsible car enthusiest who wants to test the abilities of their car, but doesnt want to risk killing someone, thus taking their car to a track day or something similar.

The next is those who want to muck around in their cars and currently do so on the street. These people do so knowing they are breaking the law and endangering lives, yet do it anyway. These people may justify their actions saying they have no where else to go, but the fact that they are willing to risk killing other people for their own fun means that in reality, they dont give a **** about others and would be willing to do sop with or without a proper place to go.

So what you're saying is, if the first person didn't have a track available, they wouldn't test their car's ability on the street? Even at the dead of night on a empty stretch of road where they can only hurt themselves?

You can't possibly believe that more track days wouldn't cut down on street racing at all?

[hover_cat]

People who test their cars in the dead of night still go in the second group. They're still risking lives as people may still be out, and chances are if others are out they're drunk, fruther increasing the chance of an accident. The first group is responsible people that don't risk the lives of others. Full stop.

I am saying that the benefit would be tiny if there even was one. The money used to fund such a program could be used for much better causes.

[lepstar]

from personal experience (watching my friends...my cars have never been exactly fast or performance so ive never really been a hoon)

track days/drag days/skid pans make absolutely zero difference to what happens on our roads what so ever.

in fact my friends prefer to play on the street as you dont have big brother/mother watching you and telling you what you can and cant do and when and where you can do it. They are far less likely to have their vehicles slapped with a defect notices. They like the "im doing something naughty" adrenaline rush. Plus there's the obvious downsides of the costs involved (that street out the front of your house is free dont you know and you dont need to buy a helmets/race suit/rollcage whatever.....just more rubber ).

skid pans/track days/sanctioned street drags are pretty much only for those who for whatever reason wouldnt/wont do it on the street (scared of law, scared of injuring someone etc). Those who play on public roads do so knowing (ignoring) the risks so asking someone to pay (theres ALWAYS a cost) to do what they can do for free isnt going to work. All it does is give "honest" people a place to do it and the "honest" people dont/wont do it on the street anyway.

[masternick]

You sound like you a poli. Are you? Are you Mike Rann, here to bring his fear campaign that modified cars = satan to the GON forums?

or a cop that wont be able to defect as many cars when ppl make them track only

i dont get why ppl are trying to stop this and ruin **** for alot of ppl, there is alot of other **** to ruin out there thats a biggest waste of money

[DXPetti]

All it does is give "honest" people a place to do it and the "honest" people dont/wont do it on the street anyway.

and?

What just because we aren't breaking the law we should be deprived of playing with our cars in a safe environment?

[hover_cat]

All it does is give "honest" people a place to do it and the "honest" people dont/wont do it on the street anyway.

and?

What just because we aren't breaking the law we should be deprived of playing with our cars in a safe environment?

You should be allowed to, but your hobby shouldn't be funded by the government.

[corsa826]

You should be allowed to, but your hobby shouldn't be funded by the government.

They could save a quid or two by removing all the useless adverts on tv, I bet they cost a pretty penny more than a few subsidised track days. Considering third party sponsership, It needn't cost the government much at all, but it does need to be initiated by them.

[hover_cat]

You should be allowed to, but your hobby shouldn't be funded by the government.

They could save a quid or two by removing all the useless adverts on tv, I bet they cost a pretty penny more than a few subsidised track days. Considering third party sponsership, It needn't cost the government much at all, but it does need to be initiated by them.

Its harsh to call these ads on TV useless. They do help prevent accidents.

A subsidized track day is not cheap in any way. Track rental, security to moniter the event, liability insurance, ect would be a massive amount to spend, especially considering these track days only effect a small portion of the population, rather than the entire population liek TV ads do. Also as explained above, these track days wouldn't do s*** to prevent accidents anyway.

But hey, saving a few lives is nothing if it means a few people can hoon around a track once or twice a year for free.

[lepstar]

All it does is give "honest" people a place to do it and the "honest" people dont/wont do it on the street anyway.

and?

What just because we aren't breaking the law we should be deprived of playing with our cars in a safe environment?

Errrr..i was not making any comment on whether or not there should be skid pans/sanctioned street drags/track days.

Simply was saying that they make absolutely no difference what so ever to what goes on on our public roads.

Personally i like to go down to hidden valley and watch the drags and drifting (the circuit racing bores me but that simply my opinion).

As for the government sponsoring/paying for them ive got no problem there either. No one can tell me that football grounds/clubs, cricket grounds/clubs, swimming pools/clubs arent helped by the government...in fact pretty much every sport you can name is sponsored/subsidised/given tax free status etc by the government. I dont see why motor sport should be any different. The problem is people (like my mates) who do silly things on our public road have demonised the few (it is definitely a minority) people who actually want to do the right thing.

[DXPetti]

As for the government sponsoring/paying for them ive got no problem there either. No one can tell me that football grounds/clubs, cricket grounds/clubs, swimming pools/clubs arent helped by the government...in fact pretty much every sport you can name is sponsored/subsidised/given tax free status etc by the government. I dont see why motor sport should be any different. The problem is people (like my mates) who do silly things on our public road have demonised the few (it is definitely a minority) people who actually want to do the right thing.

Exactly, but I don't see why those sports and the minority is any different? AFL and the cricket are often subjected to drunk fools you get on punch ons and other disgraceful acts, soccer has some doosies as well. Least in motorsport 9/10 its the particpates who's lives are endanger and not the spectators

[shadowrunner03]

fastest car was an XA GT coupe with a heavily modded 351 (wound it off the clock)
prob the most expensive too seeing as that car had its full history and papers checked to be an origional.(they are worth over $250K now)

best i have driven and need i say it is a DATSUN 120Y with a full rally motor, hugged the ground like nothing i have ever driven ( did 180kph too) just don't try and stop at those speeds in a hurry inone of those.

the new cars don't have a patch on the older cars

[Wishbone]

996 Porsche 911 Turbo. On a track too Had Thomas Mezera as my passenger handing out tips on how not to kill us both.



Done in 2005 @ Porsche Driver Training Centre QLD