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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Sathias » 4 Jun 12, 11:23 am

BurntToast wrote:
akira675 wrote:
BurntToast wrote:I sure as hell dont have window locks and back to base monitoring on my other games.

Your other games are like old MAC OS's. People didn't make virus's for MAC's because nobody used them. Then they got popular. Now MAC's get colds.



Ok sure, but the way some of these posts are coming across is that you expect the average gamer to be able to tell which games they play that are 'high risk' and therefore require extra security to those that are not and do not. I for one dont know the difference, and this poor chap obviously does not given his post about his unhackable password.

Education does not require berating a person and assuming the worst simply because its humorous to poke fun at their ignorance.


I can see your point. I think you'd find that the people who are used to authenticators are the people who play WoW or other MMOs which have them available such as SWTOR. What people forget is that a lot of gamers don't do the MMO thing due to the monthly cost, so D3 is bringing in a lot of gamers which aren't used to needing an authenticator.

Hopefully if there is any good to come of this is that it will make more people aware that account security in this day and age requires more than just a password. Steam have been through similar issues hence the extra Steamguard features they released recently.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby André Axe'm » 4 Jun 12, 11:34 am

BurntToast wrote:How do they know who to target?

They stole gear from a level 24 DH, I don't think they are targetting.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Disco LT » 4 Jun 12, 11:40 am

BurntToast wrote:Ok sure, but the way some of these posts are coming across is that you expect the average gamer to be able to tell which games they play that are 'high risk' and therefore require extra security to those that are not and do not. I for one dont know the difference, and this poor chap obviously does not given his post about his unhackable password.

Education does not require berating a person and assuming the worst simply because its humorous to poke fun at their ignorance.


Pretty much, I feel for him. If it happened again in a month because he didn't follow anyones advice, then I'd probably poke some fun at him. I hope he recovers his gear though.

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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Mekon » 4 Jun 12, 11:41 am

BurntToast wrote:But if its a result of a random hack/keylogger and hackers have managed to get any info at all out of blizzard to aid their endeavor with no fault on the side of the OP then I stick with my original stance.

Keep in mind that a battle.net login is an email address and a password (without an authenticator). Keylogger is one possiblity, but basic lax security is another:

How many high-profile sites have been hacked over the last 18 months? How many people use the same password across multiple sites (and given that it is an email address for the username, many people will be using the same one).

I much prefer sites that allow you to choose both a username and a password, for that very reason.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Novocaine » 4 Jun 12, 11:45 am

André Axe'm wrote:
BurntToast wrote:How do they know who to target?

They stole gear from a level 24 DH, I don't think they are targetting.


It seems like they get a massive batch of username/passwords and take everything they possibly can in one big go, and then hope that some of it will slip through the cracks.

You will notice account compromises will probably slow down a bunch for a while and then all of a sudden another wave will happen. It's been like that in WoW for years.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Disco LT » 4 Jun 12, 11:54 am

I just wish they could get rid of the gold sellers, the spam drives me nuts and I report every single one of them.

Blizzard could be smart and just make every message with a $ symbol in it invisible to everyone else :D
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Tydus » 4 Jun 12, 12:03 pm

Disco LT wrote:I just wish they could get rid of the gold sellers, the spam drives me nuts and I report every single one of them.

Blizzard could be smart and just make every message with a $ symbol in it invisible to everyone else :D


Omg, what an amazing idea, that would totally ruin them! I can totally see the billion dollar gold farming business in serious trouble now, their whole operation foiled buy such a simple solution, who would of thought it would be so easy too. Your going to go far kid!

o wait

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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Ralph Wiggum » 4 Jun 12, 12:09 pm

I admit I'm one of those who didn't know about this authenticator business. I haven't played a Blizzard game in a long time (in fact D2:LoD was probably my last Blizzard game) and I don't go around wandering the Blizzard site looking for extra information.

Mekon wrote: How many high-profile sites have been hacked over the last 18 months? How many people use the same password across multiple sites (and given that it is an email address for the username, many people will be using the same one).

I much prefer sites that allow you to choose both a username and a password, for that very reason.


I run through about four different passwords right now which I admit are re-used for certain accounts. It's starting to get confusing to remember who uses what :dizzy: Rather inadvertently the password for my e-mail account is unique and isn't shared with any other website/account.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Disco LT » 4 Jun 12, 12:20 pm

Tydus wrote:Omg, what an amazing idea, that would totally ruin them! I can totally see the billion dollar gold farming business in serious trouble now, their whole operation foiled buy such a simple solution, who would of thought it would be so easy too. Your going to go far kid!

o wait

100k gold - 10USD

damn


Got a better idea, or just feel like being a smartarse? :shock:
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Gamer87 » 4 Jun 12, 12:43 pm

Disco LT wrote:
Tydus wrote:Omg, what an amazing idea, that would totally ruin them! I can totally see the billion dollar gold farming business in serious trouble now, their whole operation foiled buy such a simple solution, who would of thought it would be so easy too. Your going to go far kid!

o wait

100k gold - 10USD

damn


Got a better idea, or just feel like being a smartarse? :shock:

Anything is a better idea than just filtering text out if it has 1 dollar sign character :/
Real way to stop it? Stop people using the services they provide.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby akira675 » 4 Jun 12, 1:00 pm

Disco LT wrote:Got a better idea, or just feel like being a smartarse? :shock:

What they are doing right now is about the best they can do without removing trial accounts. Activision would stamp their feet at any suggestion trial accounts are removed, so it stays relying on the community to go through the terribly difficult process of right clicking on said gold sellers name and hitting "report spam." This has the added benefit of auto ignoring said gold seller.
I mean, you may as well ask the internet to stop sending you emails about Viagra and those berry things.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Mugsy » 4 Jun 12, 1:04 pm

My bro's mate got his account hacked the other day so my bro immediately got the mobile authenticator. I've done the same but, due to my android tablet being so slow, I've gone ahead and bought the authenticator token from the Blizzard store... well two as my bro has a habit of losing/breaking mobile phones eventually. What a big brother's for? It was better value for money as international p&h is the same for one or two of them.

Personally speaking, with the shift towards online gaming the way it is, authenticators should come with the retail copy of all games.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Artful-dodgeR » 4 Jun 12, 1:06 pm

Considering the **** plethora of money they have SURELY they could build in some logic around account activity and **** said in chat to work out who is a gold seller and who isn't.

It can't be *that* hard.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby Disco LT » 4 Jun 12, 1:13 pm

Alright, so maybe it was a bad idea.. but I'm sure people have been reporting gold sellers on WoW for a decade or so now, to little avail. If they could stop it, they would have by now.. so it's probably something we'll just have to endure.

And I enjoy the general chat, so don't want to just leave it because of those douches.
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Re: All gear for DH GONE!

Unread postby akira675 » 4 Jun 12, 1:24 pm

I imagine they could disallow trial accounts from posting in general chat. In fact, its somewhat confusing that they haven't already. Either they deem it necessary to grasp the "full experience" of the game, or its woven inseparably around their systems.
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