Check Out the Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut Endings

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I thought it covered the indoctrination theory with a 1 sentence. When shepard said the illusive man was right the boy thing said "he couldn't take control as we already had control of him but you can.." meaning we don't control you. Pretty lame but that covers it.

[Marius]

so who's guessing the cannon will end up as Control (no jokes about assuming Control) as it gives the Universe the best outcome without the stupid everything has circuits on the surface - come one why would EDI, The Geth and the Reapers have the circuits on the surface if anything they should have flesh.

Bioware have said specifically that ME3 has no canon. ME canon is how you interpret it.

Played through it... no Kelly... endings underwhelming. Annoyed that they left some unanswered questions but instead put in a refusal choice that makes no real sense... Shepard spent the game trying to build the Crucible, why would she suddenly choke at the end? I can get synthesis, control, and destroy, I can't get playing a game for 30 hours and then going "Meh, I don't want to fight anymore."

Overall, would have been much improved if they changed the ending scene with Buzz Aldrin to go something like:

"Would you like to hear another story, about the time humanity first landed on the moon?"

"Nah... sounds lame."

"Why you little punk..."

[James Pinnell]

I enjoyed the original endings - these just remove what made them great (abstract, open ended).

[realOne]

It's sci-fi which in most cases just like "sci-fi movies" answers never get told or shown. In the end its up to the users imagination.

Anyway finished it with extended endings thought it was fine as much as any sci-fi, now bring on Mass Effect 4 Tali's Galactic Adventures!

[Ezelek]

Played through it... no Kelly... endings underwhelming. Annoyed that they left some unanswered questions but instead put in a refusal choice that makes no real sense... Shepard spent the game trying to build the Crucible, why would she suddenly choke at the end? I can get synthesis, control, and destroy, I can't get playing a game for 30 hours and then going "Meh, I don't want to fight anymore."

I get in the sense of "All these choices are ****, I'm going to forge my own path instead", but then just standing there and watching it all burn... Some people.

[Marius]

I enjoyed the original endings - these just remove what made them great (abstract, open ended).

They're the same thing really... the endings are still abstract and open ended, because you're not really shown much at all.

The main part of the endings is the expanded dialogue with Starbrat, and it's some useful extra information that makes the scene not so jarring. I did like the part where he explains his origins. That really opens up more room for speculation, not less. Who created him? How did they react to the reapers? These are new questions you can now speculate on.

[lord-ezekiel]

Well i just finished it for the very first time today (AMAZINGLY good timing with the new endings having just come out lol)
Took me just over 50 hours (Played 1, 2 and 3 through with same the same character, each game took almost exactly 50 hours, which was surprising (not to mention massive!)
I chose the Synthesis ending (i thought it was so obviously the correct decision (no one dies) that i am surprised how many people did not choose it.
All in all, the ending was OK, but the whole experience of playing through those games... it's just bloody amazing.
Easily up there with my favourite games of all time, no exaggeration (and i have played a LOT of games).

It boggles the mind just how much work must go into these games, and the sheer insanity it must have caused its creators to have 3 games and countless plot points and character threads intertwining in so many different ways...

[Marius]

I chose the Synthesis ending (i thought it was so obviously the correct decision (no one dies) that i am surprised how many people did not choose it.

Except Shepard...

I didn't play the game to commit suicide at the end, is mostly why I didn't choose it. Also, it doesn't kill the reapers, which is what they deserved. The Geth and EDI were necessary collateral damage. Unfortunate, but necessary.

[Capt.no0b]

Just in case

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I liked the part where they put Admiral Anderson and Shepherd on the remembrance wall of the Normandy, but apart from that, I liked the original endings and these were just basically longer versions of the same thing.

[Marius]

Yeah, I thought that scene was done really well.

It made me think "I wonder what's going to happen later when they get back to Earth... who will Shepard be found by?"

Joker's "Dammit" was really good too.

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Pretty tough for him, thinking he lost Shepard, and then definitely lost EDI. Added to that my Shepard's last words to him were basically "Suck it up, princess" after he complained that EDI was going into battle. I felt so cruel after seeing his final reaction.

To me, that was a clear victory of the EC, to prompt that kind of emotional reaction.

[Lexxbomb]

I enjoyed the original endings - these just remove what made them great (abstract, open ended).

They're the same thing really... the endings are still abstract and open ended, because you're not really shown much at all.

The main part of the endings is the expanded dialogue with Starbrat, and it's some useful extra information that makes the scene not so jarring. I did like the part where he explains his origins. That really opens up more room for speculation, not less. Who created him? How did they react to the reapers? These are new questions you can now speculate on.

checkout the talk about the Leviathan DLC that might be in the works... aparantly the Extended cut DLC has already been datamined and into about a reaper called the Leviathan who might fight against the other reapers and more info on who first created them - hints that some of the original creators might still be around - hence the beings of light mentioned in the codex (very Babylon 5)


http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic ... x/12777408

[Marius]

That's quite possible. Starbrat says at the end

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That the creators didn't agree with the reaper solution but were overcome. So Starbrat is a rogue VI possibly fashioned by the beings of light who went all Skynet, and the beings couldn't shut him down.

Looking into how exactly this happened will be very interesting. It opens up more possibilities for the series. It certainly explains Starbrat's circular logic.

[Mick351GTHO]

My theory,

Is that "Starbrat"(evil space-boy) is only in Shepard's mind trying to indoctrinate him to join the reapers like basically their whole army. What he was saying didn't seem aesthetic he was trying to lean him to the control side And that leaves the reapers alive and Shepard under "their control" or dead.

Also he was saying if you chooses to destroy the reapers and all synthetic will die, and in the future somewhere in the universe organic life will once again genetically modify synthetic life creation, and it will all happen again like a smart arse.

gestalt of the Reapers

+1 the little boys evil voice is gold!





Shepard was of somewhat under control but he wasn't fully hence why he could decide the universe's faith and had control of the conduit. got to remember he passed out and he work up again. And like that little evil space-boy says they wipe out everyone and leave the young ones and use everyone else under their control as slaves. Smiler to what Prothean do... use other species as slaves.

and quote from Javik "Subjugating the Reapers will not bring victory, only their extinction will." coming from a Prothean who was fighting them for centuries.

So my conclusion, I'd rather sacrifice myself to kill the reapers and save the universe.
Over controlling them and becoming indoctrinated (one of them)
or synthetic and organic join and become one under a new breed of DNA using space magic.


But Shepard still lives don't know how he done it all without a helmet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKDrEJeu ... re=related

[Mick351GTHO]

either way, pathetic ending.
It's not about the money spent on 1,2,3 and all the DLC for them all if that isn't enough its about the time spent hours of playing it to the Tee to get perfect endings and at the end to finish of what has been the best game since slice bread. a fail ending....... maybe not fail that's to soft more like a hart break.

I'm cut deep. dlc's done nothing to it..

[Texelate]

I thought it covered the indoctrination theory with a 1 sentence. When shepard said the illusive man was right the boy thing said "he couldn't take control as we already had control of him but you can.." meaning we don't control you. Pretty lame but that covers it.

Well, if Indoctrination Theory was true, then the boy implicitly telling him he was not under Reaper control was INSIDE an indoctrination attempt.. so it doesn't matter :p

As for my opinion on the ending

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I have only played one ending, and given the new info that was presented in the extended cut, I went with the control ending. It seemed like the only downside of this choice was that Shepard's body was destroyed but his mind lived on. No other side effects. Seemed like the best choice to me.

Also, someone mentioned earlier on that the mass effect relays don't explode now? They did in my ending. Given I chose Control, Shepard just had the repairs repair them. Yay intergalactic travel is possible again bringing everything back into balance.

The two nitpicks I have are below

1) It still doesn't explain how the frack the Illusive Man got onto the Citadel when it was such a huge effort for anyone else to. He was indoctrinated, so perhaps the Repears allowed it. It's only a tiny thing given good guys/bad buys inexplicably show up in places at key plot points in movies, games etc.. it just makes for a good story

2) I'm still not a huge fan of the Normandy ending up on that planet by itself. It seems that the Normandy crew is cut off from the rest of the universe for no reason. Obviously a ship would come by at some point and help them so that's ok.

One more story... very much looking forward to it.

Thank you Bioware, I had lost all hope in Mass Effect and while not perfect, the extended cut DLC has certainly made this fan a lot happier.