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Mekon wrote:I'd like to think I'm a fairly well-adjusted individual. I'm happily married, I treat women with respect, with a vaguely chivalrous bent at times. I believe in equality, I don't believe in arbitrary distinctions between men and women - we are all humans. And for that reason... I don't have an issue with the trailer. It's gratuitous, yes. But I don't buy into the feminist backlash.
Dragging rape into it is ridiculous - everyone is entitled to their own opinion, if people don't like the trailer, fine. If they do, that's ok too. I'm in neither camp - couldn't care less.
Isn't it ironic that the feminist cause was for the purpose of allowing women to choose how they wished to live their lives (and participate fully in society), free of male control... yet we still cling to the idea that women dressed in latex or wearing skimpy clothing are sexualised. Doesn't that reflect somewhat poorly on the observer's attitude?
edit: Yes, rape is bad. As pointed out in Brendan Keough's article - you can't blame the victims because of the way they may have dressed, the fault lies entirely with the perpetrator. So why, in a trailer depicting nuns in latex, with no actual sex or rape (unless somehow murder/killing is now defined as rape) is the concept raised?
Clearly people are still confused about just how they should feel about the opposite sex and are projecting said confusion on anything borderline or open to different interpretations.
I agree, I found the trailer to be pretty boring in that it just didn't seem to fit the Hitman vibe very well. My reaction wasn't "this is bad because it's sexist and gratuitously violent to women" it was "this is bad because the actual interesting part of Hitman (ie the stealth elements) is lost in favour of the Matrix with nuns".
I think people are free to find it offensive, but I also don't see why video games should be held to a higher standard than comparative mediums like action films, where women dressing in sexy outfits with no real reason is accepted without a reaction.
Mekon wrote:the fault lies entirely with the perpetrator.
JImmy_35 wrote:flabcab wrote:ms if I don't agree with them.
Sexuality will always exist in all forms of advertising as long as there are men who find women attractive.
Or Women who find Men attractive, why is it always one way?
Nekosan wrote:Personal responsibility/awareness can go a LONG way towards preventing rape.
vcatkiller wrote:It's not living in fear, it's living with awareness. We live in a corrupt world, dangerous and morally corrupt people exist. Otherwise you wouldn't have to lock your doors/windows in case somebody tries to enter and take your stuff. Or lock your car/purchase a car alarm in case somebody wants to take your car or its contents. If you're going to wear popular footwear around then you don't walk around at night down a dark alley in a dangerous part of town. (or maybe you just don't do that) In all crimes there is a perpetrator and a victim. There are cautionary steps you can take to lessen the chance of becoming a victim. Rape is no exception.
Tas wrote:You lot bangin on about rape all time, you realize this is exactly what that dick head wanted, he used a deliberate tactic to wind people up. Exaggerating the story an deliberately including rape in there when there is none hinted at, none openly stated.
>>>>>>>>>>>THERE IS NO RAPE IN THE GAME!!!...<<<<<<<<<<<
lol learn it, remember it
Tas wrote:Fact is, you can not link imagination to real life, this is nothing but pixels on a screen with zero impact on any "sane" an "rational" persons life.So it mystifys me why your all going on about it.
Tas wrote:#1 There is no rape in the game, this is fact!
Tas wrote:#2 To think that this "computer game" encourages rape an the murder/assault of women is moronic in the extreme. I can count on 1 finger the amount of nuns walkin around in leather straps carrying enough firepower to make a Kentucky survivalist envious.....oh wait, no I cant... [u]BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED[/u]
Tas wrote:I am sorry, but I can kill, stab an slash throats, an blow up 1000 people in BF3 for instance, or tribes an then log off an utterly forget that game exists... why you ask ?. because its fantasy..... Period.
I have no feelings of/or to go out an kill people, I do not log off an think, man that was cool I wonder if I can go stab someone tonight....
If you cant separate a game from real world you need medical help an should get off the PC immediately (yes I am serious)
The idiot jerno wanna be's that scream every day that games make children into mass murderers, an an the like are simply using peoples ignorance an fear as a stepping stone to make a name for themselves.
Mekon wrote:If a kid gets rolled for his shoes (ok, early 90s reference), is it his fault for wearing popular shoes?
If someone gets bashed for being gay, is it their fault because they shouldn't have been overtly homosexual?
If a petrol station gets held up at gunpoint, is it their fault for being open late?
If a mosque gets burned down, is it their fault for not being Christian?
If a family gets murdered in a home invasion, is it their fault for not having better security?
Tas wrote:Every word I have said I stand by 100%.
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