The World’s Most Customisable Mouse

[Bronze_D]

then that's ONE MORE part that customization could add in the future no? Why would customization be detrimental to that?

you like the mouse the way it works on X, someone else ABSOLUTELY hates it and can't stand it,... been there done that, for eternity which is the whole point why customization option is welcome.

though frankly i still don't quite get your problem as nearly all the mouse i know of maintain the same few mm distance between it's main case and the contact surface, and extending this is not particularly good since that means increasing distance for the sensor to the surface.

other than that the only contact the mouse has with the surface is the actual mouse skate.

the exception to it i can think of would be if the casing is very large (which some mouse are indeed) and you are using a soft pad which literally means the mouse will SINK into the pad to an extent if your hand apply enough weight to it.

in case of RAT for instance my guess would be to minimize it's base surface area by removing all of the grip extra on the side. If that's not enough to reduce the friction then that's something to improve with EVEN more customization in the future.

[Marius]

the exception to it i can think of would be if the casing is very large (which some mouse are indeed) and you are using a soft pad which literally means the mouse will SINK into the pad to an extent if your hand apply enough weight to it.

Which is indeed the problem for me with the palm held designs.

I really doubt you can go from a palm design to a fingertip design in customization, since it would involve drastically changing the shell and button placement. You'd have to have two entirely different sets of shells and buttons, since buttons are designed to fit in the shell. And when you get to that level of component switching, I'd just prefer a solid product that doesn't rattle around whenever I move it.

I do enjoy some level of customisation. My Lacheis has different sensitivity within a profile and four different profiles. I use separate profiles for different games so I can bind different buttons to the mouse.

However I see no reason to customise the outer shell when I can just buy the right shell to begin within. I don't want to pay for double the plastic components and have a rattly mouse.

Which is an entirely valid concern. I like streamlined products that fit me so I don't fill up my drawers with plastic components I never use. Prefer to buy a design that fits me as close as possible without customisation rather than a generic design with 50 different components that I'll end up throwing out 40 of them once have figured out the right combo.

[Subedai]

I am pretty happy with my Razer Mamba. Wireless works perfectly without input delay, it has the standard right handed shape that m$ employs, it only has the standard functional 7 buttons + scroll wheel which I like. The only downside is the weight distribution is noticeably different from similar shaped models in Logitech (like G5) and m$ (Explorer v3), it's a little further back towards the palm, probably not ideal if you're a claw gripper and not a palmer for large movements, I am a palmer and it still took some getting used to. I think it's probably the best wireless option available, simple with the standard customisation options, not so many you really don't know what to do.

[Bronze_D]

Which is an entirely valid concern. I like streamlined products that fit me so I don't fill up my drawers with plastic components I never use. Prefer to buy a design that fits me as close as possible without customisation rather than a generic design with 50 different components that I'll end up throwing out 40 of them once have figured out the right combo.

which is fine, and if you are lucky enough to have one that fits perfectly on your palm then so much the better.

unfortunately there isn't a single case that fits all hand perfectly, and asking manufacturer to produce multiple case is out of the question since that's no where economical. So SOMEONE will be forced to adapt and use something they are not particularly feel fully content with but have no better choice, so as long as customization allows ppl to have higher chance of acquiring the exact criteria they want i consider that a bonus.

to be perfectly honest i don't think it actually involve that much modification, because if i read this correctly the RAT is already capable of handling pretty much what ur asking to an extent since it can be resized lengthwise, height, and width wise at least for RAT 9.

Now as for the question if that's worth it, that depends entirely on the user... if you already have a perfect mouse then obviously you wouldn't care, but if you DON'T it serves to point out that you don't actually have to replace the entire case, in which for the RAT case they simply do it by making the main case adjustable to an extent in terms of basic dimension and then adding the grips and pads as extra option to add or reduce it on top of that.

[Ashigaru]

deathadder, i rage, i throw it, i slam it.

only mouse i have not been able to kill, had it for few years now. good investment

I can beat that, still using the MX-510 I bought in late 2003, and I put it through a goddamn window. Ask DiscoBrad he can verify. Still using it The window however had to be replaced....

[Aphyosis]

The Logitech G series of mice also suffer from a problem where they fit into the palm rather than the fingertips, which seems to reduce my accuracy.

Yeah, they really tailor themselves to a group of people with a specific grip. I have fairly large hands and i love my G7 for exactly the reason you dislike it. It fits my hand comfortably, something very few mice I've used can do. Until it dies I'm unlikely to replace it.

My only complaint is the teflon is beginning to wear so it doesn't glide as well as it used to and i can't find any replacements.

[Marius]

Now as for the question if that's worth it, that depends entirely on the user... if you already have a perfect mouse then obviously you wouldn't care, but if you DON'T it serves to point out that you don't actually have to replace the entire case, in which for the RAT case they simply do it by making the main case adjustable to an extent in terms of basic dimension and then adding the grips and pads as extra option to add or reduce it on top of that.

Too many parts.

One of the readers tried a mouse from this range and reported it felt lightweight and tacky. Which is a problem when you have so many individual components. A solid design has a different feel, which is why there are many premium products that use as few parts as possible. Customisaiton can't replicate this.

[poida]

some things are just best kept simple.

[diamondd]

though frankly i still don't quite get your problem as nearly all the mouse i know of maintain the same few mm distance between it's main case and the contact surface, and extending this is not particularly good since that means increasing distance for the sensor to the surface.

thats because you seem to have completely misunderstood what I meant probably my bad.

What I meant was something like this, if I put my mouse on my mat, move it 10cm exactly to the right across my pad, I want that to translate to exactly 180 degrees of turning in my FPS of choice (hypothetically).

So say that's my ideal sensitivity and I like that in every shooter I play, what is annoying for me is trying to fiddle with some crappy sensitivity slider in the new game i just bought to make it identical.

If you catch my drift... lol

[Marius]

He was actually replying to me.

The problem typically comes from the size of the mouse.

Look at a large, angular mouse like a G9. The bottom of this mouse is a solid flat surface - the edges of the bottom are on the same level as the sensor. This means that any pressure applied that isn't exactly downward will lead the edge to catch on a cloth pad.

Now look at many Razer mice. Their edges are smoothed upwards, so that uneven pressure will not result in the edge catching.

As I said, I don't want a mouse which comes with three different shell designs. I just want a solid shell construction in the style I desire, hence why I use my Razer.

[diamondd]

He was actually replying to me.

The problem typically comes from the size of the mouse.

Look at a large, angular mouse like a G9. The bottom of this mouse is a solid flat surface - the edges of the bottom are on the same level as the sensor. This means that any pressure applied that isn't exactly downward will lead the edge to catch on a cloth pad.

Now look at many Razer mice. Their edges are smoothed upwards, so that uneven pressure will not result in the edge catching.

As I said, I don't want a mouse which comes with three different shell designs. I just want a solid shell construction in the style I desire, hence why I use my Razer.

lol

[chodeofwar]

G9X > all other mice

[Nekosan]

I'm using a first generation intellimouse 4 (the 5 button ones) and it's so old it turned a sickly yellow colour, **** has had pepsi spilled on/in it, beer, soup, fallen off the desk more times than i can count and it's still just as good as they day i got it.

Complication just for the sake of it is never a good idea, maybe that mouse would be ok if it was $60 but the price is just too high imo.

G9X > all other mice

Doesn't work for me, being a finger user it just feels like a blocky, unresponsive pos, i have friends that use them but i need a longer mouse, i also find the extra buttons are in a stupid spot, i'm a big fan of 1-2 on either side rather than 2 on one side and nothing on the other, that never made sense to me from a gaming or design pov.

[Bronze_D]

Too many parts.

One of the readers tried a mouse from this range and reported it felt lightweight and tacky. Which is a problem when you have so many individual components. A solid design has a different feel, which is why there are many premium products that use as few parts as possible. Customisaiton can't replicate this.

that's a valid concern, though until i get my shipment i will take all that comment with a grain of salt, especially what he means by lightweight since the device comes with weight adjustment, perhaps he was referring to the lower end model of RAT. Either way i will find out when i run it through the LAN marathon.

Until the tech is perfected though, i don't see that much of an alternative for those who would be seeking for the mouse. Most mice obviously are designed and manufactured with a static casing which one would hope fits the hand of most of it's users... up until now if those mice didn't fit right, then your only choice were to either suck it up and try to adapt your hand to it or find another and hope someone made a mice that had the same feature you wanted with the right contour and shape.

If getting the adjustment just right means enduring shortcoming in the build, i'd say that's an acceptable price to pay as long as it does what it's supposed to do with acceptable tolerance. That's not a price someone would be willing to pay if he's satisfied with his mouse already, but that's the whole point isn't it? If you already have a mouse that fits your hand fine then you don't NEED a new mouse, and i somehow don't think they made this thing with you in mind.

[Matty]

A few years back, we couldn't even adjust sensitivity on the fly... now i can't imagine playing my games (BC2 and MWLL in particular) without it.

I must admit, now that I can do this on battlefield, I don't think ill be able to go back to just a normal mouse.

Too many parts.

One of the readers tried a mouse from this range and reported it felt lightweight and tacky. Which is a problem when you have so many individual components. A solid design has a different feel, which is why there are many premium products that use as few parts as possible. Customisaiton can't replicate this.

Actually to be honest, that is a flaw on the designers part, not the fact there is too many components. A good engineer could actually over come this problem quite easily.

That being said they might have a budget to stick too so they might no of wanted to spend the time on making it feel solid.