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[Mekon]

That's an incorrect resolution problem. Some TVs get narky about whether you set the res as the actual resolution i.e. 1920x1080 or as 1080p/i.

It's a combination of strange HDMI 1080p functionality in the monitor hardware and a bug in 2 of the ATI drivers. The problem was to do with overscan - a legacy TV concept dating back to analog days.

Had never seen the issue until I connected a Dell monitor via HDMI. The fix was easy enough, just needed to edit the overscan settings in the CCC and worked perfectly for months until a Catalyst driver release introduced a bug whereby the settings weren't saved. Is fixed in Catalyst 10.10; you still need to initially set the overscan correctly, though.

[Matty]

The ati cards always sound good on paper, but i have never once had one deliver remotely stable output.

Sounds like you just don't know how to use a computer correctly. Perhaps you should take some courses, they will make your user experience much more enjoyable. Or you could get someone who knows how to correctly build and setup PCs to take a look at it.

Considering many many people have problems with ATI cards, how is this even remotely constructive?

[MaddMoose]

Considering many many people have problems with ATI cards, how is this even remotely constructive?

because most people don't and your claims of ATI drivers being so unstable your computer will BSOD every few minutes are complete ****. So either your trolling or your computer is setup incorrectly, in which case you either need to learn how to set it up correctly or get professional help to do it.

[Matty]

Considering many many people have problems with ATI cards, how is this even remotely constructive?

because most people don't and your claims of ATI drivers being so unstable your computer will BSOD every few minutes are complete ****. So either your trolling or your computer is setup incorrectly, in which case you either need to learn how to set it up correctly or get professional help to do it.

So im the one trolling? Right...

Perhaps we should get back ontopic before you start flaming other people.

[MaddMoose]

So im the one trolling? Right...

So how many times has your PC crashed in the last 30 minutes since your post? By your claims, you should have had 10 BSODs so far.

[Matty]

So im the one trolling? Right...

So how many times has your PC crashed in the last 30 minutes since your post? By your claims, you should have had 10 BSODs so far.

Not once did I say my computer BSOD. Read the thread before you post, someone else was claming BSOD.

I was claiming my inability open CCC, Poor drivers, Drivers not being able to install correctly and games freezing.

Get back ontopic before the thread is derailed and locked.

[Rogue]

End of the day, I buy the card that has the best price/performance ratio, also considering power usage and noise factors. Whether that is NVidia or ATI changes on a yearly basis, it's currently ATI for me.

Ditto.

I've had cards from both companies in the past (and had no problems with either company).

[chaff]

End of the day, I buy the card that has the best price/performance ratio, also considering power usage and noise factors. Whether that is NVidia or ATI changes on a yearly basis, it's currently ATI for me.

Ditto.

I've had cards from both companies in the past (and had no problems with either company).

Me too ive had cards from both companies over the years, and they have all been good bar a couple on both sides

[coatsy22]

The ati cards always sound good on paper, but i have never once had one deliver remotely stable output.

Sounds like you just don't know how to use a computer correctly. Perhaps you should take some courses, they will make your user experience much more enjoyable. Or you could get someone who knows how to correctly build and setup PCs to take a look at it.

Considering many many people have problems with ATI cards, how is this even remotely constructive?

Hmm, should i take some courses like say the mechatronic degree i have? If you assume, you make an **** of yourself

because most people don't and your claims of ATI drivers being so unstable your computer will BSOD every few minutes are complete ****. So either your trolling or your computer is setup incorrectly, in which case you either need to learn how to set it up correctly or get professional help to do it.

I did not say i was getting BSOD's. The ati cards i have had have been notorious for spitting "The video card driver stopped responding, and has been restarted" after having the display crash for 2-3 secs. If it was a problem with the hardware you would get BSOD's - the problem is always rubbish drivers.

[Mekon]

The ati cards i have had have been notorious for spitting "The video card driver stopped responding, and has been restarted" after having the display crash for 2-3 secs. If it was a problem with the hardware you would get BSOD's - the problem is always rubbish drivers.

I presume you're running Vista/Windows 7?

The whole point being that the new OSes are designed to *not* BSOD if the drivers crash (due to hardware reasons or otherwise). It could well still be a problem with your hardware.

[camstatic]

Waiting for nVidia to release a dual GPU fermi card, then I might begin to consider an upgrade...

[Instinx]

Waiting for nVidia to release a dual GPU fermi card, then I might begin to consider an upgrade...

I thought the various 460 2GBs were that? Although they seem to be third-party. I don't really understand it.

[MaddMoose]

The whole point being that the new OSes are designed to *not* BSOD if the drivers crash (due to hardware reasons or otherwise). It could well still be a problem with your hardware.

Yep, only ever had 1 BSOD with Vista and W7 (shakes fist at Creative), rest of the time the driver just fails and then restarts or doesn't restart and it uses the default Windows one. Even when overclocking my GPUs, didn't get any BSODs.

[Shinanigans]

Hmm, should i take some courses like say the mechatronic degree i have? If you assume, you make an **** of yourself

I did not say i was getting BSOD's. The ati cards i have had have been notorious for spitting "The video card driver stopped responding, and has been restarted" after having the display crash for 2-3 secs. If it was a problem with the hardware you would get BSOD's - the problem is always rubbish drivers.

So does nVidia. In fact, both my 8800GTX and my GTX285 did it more often than i find enjoyable and i've yet to experience it on an ATi card. Bioshock was a **** for it and so is the Sandbox2 editor. I find it quite disappointing that there are still many people out there, even as esteemed in their paperwork as you are, that still don't quite understand that driver issues generally aren't global and that the PC platform [hardware and software] isn't static.

In my own personal machine alone, i've gone through 2 different cards per year for the last 4 years running, dipping in both the red and green pool respectively and this doesn't include the 30-odd machines that i've built privately for clients in the last 3 years. Both nVidia and ATi/AMD have their driver issues and the cause is usually hit or miss, depending on what else you've got under your desk.

[Bronze_D]

most common reason i found for repeated driver failure usually attributed to hardware failure on the graphics card itself (memory failure or malfunction seems to be the most common) in which brands actually seems to affect the rate a great deal...

a BSOD with the main graphics driver causing it? sounds like the memory is shot.

quite a few sapphire, and XFX cards have died on me in that manner while asus, HSI, and gigabyte had the lowest failure rate so far.