Game of Thrones Season 2

[GoToadGo]

Would you believe that this series is based on books?!...I know right.


Then you hate yourself when you get to the end of the books and have to wait.....

I refuse to read the books as everyone I see posting in threads who has read them does nothing but critique the show and not enjoy it. The only thing I'm considering is reading the books up to where the shown is but no further.

[Auld]

Check me down on the side of "I've read the books, and the show is freakin amazing".

Those "other" people don't understand TV.

edit: In fact, I watched season 1. Then read all the books and reading them definitely enhances the show for me.

[GoToadGo]

Check me down on the side of "I've read the books, and the show is freakin amazing".

Those "other" people don't understand TV.

edit: In fact, I watched season 1. Then read all the books and reading them definitely enhances the show for me.

Honestly, I think I'd be one of the people that would hate on the show after seeing things left out that I feel are important which is why I choose to avoid the books. I also had to listen to my girlfriend harp on about the Harry Potter books and how they were better than the movies every time we watched one "Oh they didn't show this", "they missed that" ad nauseum.

[exe3]

I kind of did that with Harry Potter as well though in more of a non critical way. I think in part reading the book second is better because then you're gaining a lot more insight and story to the series.

[Wolfstar90]

Books are better, almost always. That being said this series is outstanding. Definitely worth reading.

[AzraelTheCow]

Another question for the GON oracles

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In ep 9 the Hound is fighting outside the mud gates and after gets an assist from Bron, pretty much goes CBF, walks back inside and rage quits. I'm not entirely confident of his motivation there but then he camps in Sansa's bedroom and says he could get her out of King's Landing and back home. Does he have bit of a rock spider crush or is there something else going on. What's his deal?

[Disco LT]

Another question for the GON oracles

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In ep 9 the Hound is fighting outside the mud gates and after gets an assist from Bron, pretty much goes CBF, walks back inside and rage quits. I'm not entirely confident of his motivation there but then he camps in Sansa's bedroom and says he could get her out of King's Landing and back home. Does he have bit of a rock spider crush or is there something else going on. What's his deal?

Book/TV spoilers below.. I think.

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IIRC the Hound was burned when he was younger in a fairly traumatic way, and during the battle there was fire everywhere, and it just freaked him out (kind of cool IMO, big, scary, fearless in battle.. but terrified of fire), not sure about his thing with Sansa, but I think you're on the mark re rock spider though.. I think there is more to the Hound than has been revealed

[RogerTheIncredible]

Another question for the GON oracles

Hidden: show

In ep 9 the Hound is fighting outside the mud gates and after gets an assist from Bron, pretty much goes CBF, walks back inside and rage quits. I'm not entirely confident of his motivation there but then he camps in Sansa's bedroom and says he could get her out of King's Landing and back home. Does he have bit of a rock spider crush or is there something else going on. What's his deal?

Book/TV spoilers below.. I think.

Hidden: show

IIRC the Hound was burned when he was younger in a fairly traumatic way, and during the battle there was fire everywhere, and it just freaked him out (kind of cool IMO, big, scary, fearless in battle.. but terrified of fire), not sure about his thing with Sansa, but I think you're on the mark re rock spider though.. I think there is more to the Hound than has been revealed

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Girls (especially good looking ones) are married off at Sansa's age. That's why her period was such a big deal, it signalled her becoming a woman and fit for marriage. The age difference is still shocking to more civil minded people but not so completely out of the ordinary.

[Nekosan]

Another question for the GON oracles

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In ep 9 the Hound is fighting outside the mud gates and after gets an assist from Bron, pretty much goes CBF, walks back inside and rage quits. I'm not entirely confident of his motivation there but then he camps in Sansa's bedroom and says he could get her out of King's Landing and back home. Does he have bit of a rock spider crush or is there something else going on. What's his deal?

Book/TV spoilers below.. I think.

Hidden: show

IIRC the Hound was burned when he was younger in a fairly traumatic way, and during the battle there was fire everywhere, and it just freaked him out (kind of cool IMO, big, scary, fearless in battle.. but terrified of fire), not sure about his thing with Sansa, but I think you're on the mark re rock spider though.. I think there is more to the Hound than has been revealed

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As a child Gregor entered a room to find Sandor playing with one of his toys, he held his face into a fire to teach him a lesson. The reason Sandor feels for Sansa is because (much like him) she's a seemingly innocent victim of circumstance, she had nothing to do with the political choices of her father but she's paying the price for them.

Likewise Sandor is a victim of his birth, the nature of his scars and his upbringing mean that everyone sees him as some kind of subhuman animal even though he's really not a bad person, I have him pegged so far as one of the true heroes of the upcoming novels, I believe his empathy for her also comes from overhearing her sing to someone at some stage, he calls her his "little bird" because she's trapped in a guilded cage whereas he's trapped behind his scars. Her innocence won him over when she thanked him for saving Loras Tyrell from Gregor Clegane during the first King's Landing tourney, she was the only one who saw his intervention as anything other than brutality by an animal.

Tv viewers should note that despite his semi-infatuation with Sansa his motivations weren't as pure in the books, when he was overwhelmed psychologically by the flames (in the book the entire river was coated in wildfire and tens of thousands of men were burning) he totally wigged the **** out and was 100% irrational and broken mentally, the last anyone saw of him was when he refused to sally back out the gate and I believe he was excommunicated/banished as a traitor. A result of this was that he had nowhere to go, "home" belongs to Gregor and the south belongs to Joffrey, his only choice was to "rescue" Sansa and effectively sell her back to Robb as a sign of fealty, it doesn't actually happen though, she turns him down because she's terrified of him and he ends up doing the same with Arya instead (by pure chance).




Martins books are rather unique in that his characters depart from the standard convention of "good and evil", as the series evolves it becomes apparent that the vast majority of characters exist in shades of gray rather than the black and white personae that we originally attribute to them.

The Hound and Theon just need someone who loves them for themselves, Jaime just plays the cards that life deals him and tries to do the best by his family, Cersei is damaged by the death of her mother during Tyrion's birth and the separation from her twin. Even Gregor Clegane isn't the monster he appears to be, he has an overactive pituitary gland and since he was a toddler his skull has been slightly too small for the rest of him, his life is lived in eternal shades of agony courtesy of endless blinding headaches which stop him from sleeping and cause his rage and outbursts... he's known for killing men who wake him when he actually manages to sleep and the chemical rush of battle is all that stops the pain

[spawneh]

Another question for the GON oracles

Hidden: show

In ep 9 the Hound is fighting outside the mud gates and after gets an assist from Bron, pretty much goes CBF, walks back inside and rage quits. I'm not entirely confident of his motivation there but then he camps in Sansa's bedroom and says he could get her out of King's Landing and back home. Does he have bit of a rock spider crush or is there something else going on. What's his deal?

Book/TV spoilers below.. I think.

Hidden: show

IIRC the Hound was burned when he was younger in a fairly traumatic way, and during the battle there was fire everywhere, and it just freaked him out (kind of cool IMO, big, scary, fearless in battle.. but terrified of fire), not sure about his thing with Sansa, but I think you're on the mark re rock spider though.. I think there is more to the Hound than has been revealed

Hidden: show

Girls (especially good looking ones) are married off at Sansa's age. That's why her period was such a big deal, it signalled her becoming a woman and fit for marriage. The age difference is still shocking to more civil minded people but not so completely out of the ordinary.

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It had very little to do with how they looked, it was all about their position and status (the power of the family they belonged too). Looks were obviously important to the person who was being married, but usually had almost zero impact on who was arranging the marriage(parents usually).