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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Matty » 28 Aug 12, 10:41 pm

Not ep 7, but if you haven't watched it yet don't read it just to be safe.
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I remember reading the director of Breaking Bad wanted a story where the protagonist turned into the antogonist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_Bad#Conception
"Gilligan wanted to create a series in which the protagonist became the antagonist. "Television is historically good at keeping its characters in a self-imposed stasis so that shows can go on for years or even decades," he said. "When I realized this, the logical next step was to think, how can I do a show in which the fundamental drive is toward change?"[4] He added that his goal with Walter White is to turn him from Mr. Chips into Scarface.[5][6][7] He has said it is difficult to write for Walter White because the character is so dark and morally questionable: "I'm going to miss the show when it's over, but on some level, it'll be a relief to not have Walt in my head anymore."[8] As the series has progressed, Gilligan and the writing staff of Breaking Bad have made Walter more and more unsympathetic.[5] Gilligan said: "He's going from being a protagonist to an antagonist. We want to make people question who they're pulling for, and why."[6] Cranston said by the fourth season: "I think Walt's figured out it's better to be a pursuer than the pursued. He's well on his way to badass."[7] Gilligan defines the term "breaking bad" as "to raise hell"
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby skitzor » 28 Aug 12, 11:28 pm

Matty wrote:
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I remember reading the director of Breaking Bad wanted a story where the protagonist turned into the antogonist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_Bad#Conception
"Gilligan wanted to create a series in which the protagonist became the antagonist. "Television is historically good at keeping its characters in a self-imposed stasis so that shows can go on for years or even decades," he said. "When I realized this, the logical next step was to think, how can I do a show in which the fundamental drive is toward change?"[4] He added that his goal with Walter White is to turn him from Mr. Chips into Scarface.[5][6][7] He has said it is difficult to write for Walter White because the character is so dark and morally questionable: "I'm going to miss the show when it's over, but on some level, it'll be a relief to not have Walt in my head anymore."[8] As the series has progressed, Gilligan and the writing staff of Breaking Bad have made Walter more and more unsympathetic.[5] Gilligan said: "He's going from being a protagonist to an antagonist. We want to make people question who they're pulling for, and why."[6] Cranston said by the fourth season: "I think Walt's figured out it's better to be a pursuer than the pursued. He's well on his way to badass."[7] Gilligan defines the term "breaking bad" as "to raise hell"

ep 7 spoilers.
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even more evidence that the writers had such an awesome idea of what they wanted right from the start. another example of this is in one the first episodes Walt told his students the story of the person who invented something important and sold it for almost nothing, showing that even back then they had an idea of where they wanted to go.

I feel that transition from good guy to bad guy has been **** awesome, and is one of my favourite things about the series. as I said before, I think the first time he's shown any hesitation has been when he killed mike. if he was ever going to back off on the intensity and ego-fuelled decisions it would be now. but looking at that first scene from the first episode in the season, it doesn't look like he will end up backing off anything.

I'm scared of what mid season cliffhanger they are going to leave us on.
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Matty » 29 Aug 12, 12:21 am

skitzor wrote:
Matty wrote:
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I remember reading the director of Breaking Bad wanted a story where the protagonist turned into the antogonist

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_Bad#Conception
"Gilligan wanted to create a series in which the protagonist became the antagonist. "Television is historically good at keeping its characters in a self-imposed stasis so that shows can go on for years or even decades," he said. "When I realized this, the logical next step was to think, how can I do a show in which the fundamental drive is toward change?"[4] He added that his goal with Walter White is to turn him from Mr. Chips into Scarface.[5][6][7] He has said it is difficult to write for Walter White because the character is so dark and morally questionable: "I'm going to miss the show when it's over, but on some level, it'll be a relief to not have Walt in my head anymore."[8] As the series has progressed, Gilligan and the writing staff of Breaking Bad have made Walter more and more unsympathetic.[5] Gilligan said: "He's going from being a protagonist to an antagonist. We want to make people question who they're pulling for, and why."[6] Cranston said by the fourth season: "I think Walt's figured out it's better to be a pursuer than the pursued. He's well on his way to badass."[7] Gilligan defines the term "breaking bad" as "to raise hell"

ep 7 spoilers.
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even more evidence that the writers had such an awesome idea of what they wanted right from the start. another example of this is in one the first episodes Walt told his students the story of the person who invented something important and sold it for almost nothing, showing that even back then they had an idea of where they wanted to go.

I feel that transition from good guy to bad guy has been **** awesome, and is one of my favourite things about the series. as I said before, I think the first time he's shown any hesitation has been when he killed mike. if he was ever going to back off on the intensity and ego-fuelled decisions it would be now. but looking at that first scene from the first episode in the season, it doesn't look like he will end up backing off anything.

I'm scared of what mid season cliffhanger they are going to leave us on.


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That story was Howard Tracey Hall. He found a way to synthesise diamonds, and General Eletric gave him a $10 bond as a thank you while they made an enormous amount of money off it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Tracy_Hall


How Walt has changed has been awesome. They did it perfectly to what they wanted and they pulled it off great. I don't think we will get to see why he needed that MG42 30 hours out of his hometown in the first half of the series :(


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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Lurk » 29 Aug 12, 10:20 pm

Oh man, that scene was hilarious (and sad).
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby skitzor » 3 Sep 12, 2:25 pm

episode 8
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edit: also. damn lydia... damn. she is all sorts of attractive.
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Puggz » 3 Sep 12, 3:37 pm

Episode 8 Alternate ending
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby ChainsawMcP » 3 Sep 12, 5:51 pm

Interesting handshake...

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When Lydia shakes Walt's hand she forces him in to a "submissive" positioning... ie all the body language books will tell you that the upper hand is the dominant person.
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Wrangl3r » 3 Sep 12, 6:24 pm

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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Chucky » 3 Sep 12, 6:30 pm

Wrangl3r wrote:episode 8
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Lurk » 3 Sep 12, 9:15 pm

EPISODE 8
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Tera » 3 Sep 12, 10:08 pm

Episode 8
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Sathias » 3 Sep 12, 11:15 pm

ep8 obvs

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Dammit, exact same ending as the last season of Dexter... family member finds out the big secret and have to wait a whole year to see the result.

Walt's transformation into a remorseless protagonist is complete. Those prison slayings were brutal.
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby Lurk » 3 Sep 12, 11:17 pm

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They were more messed up than the kid in the train episode, Mike near the river, the dealers getting run over, Fring getting blown up, and the meth head crushing a guy's head with an ATM... combined.
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby ChainsawMcP » 4 Sep 12, 9:23 am

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To be fair to Walt - he didn't choose their method/s of death - he was simply indifferent to it...
A true Sociopath - but he has always seemed that way to me....
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Re: Breaking Bad Fifth and Final Season

Unread postby skitzor » 4 Sep 12, 6:47 pm

ChainsawMcP wrote:
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To be fair to Walt - he didn't choose their method/s of death - he was simply indifferent to it...
A true Sociopath - but he has always seemed that way to me....

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psychopath is what you're looking for. and I would disagree, he obviously feels emotion towards his family.

now todd, he might well be a psychopath.
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