Microsoft rumoured to be unveiling Windows 9 by the end of September

Windows 8.1

By on August 25, 2014 at 6:25 pm

If you’re keen to see what Microsoft has in store for the next iteration of the Windows operating system, you might not have long to wait. According to The Verge, Microsoft will be holding a special press event to detail Windows 9′s new features on September 30th, or sometime soon after.

Along with the announcement, Microsoft will release a preview version of Windows 9 – codenamed ‘Threshold’ – according to sources familiar with Microsoft’s plans. Expected in the new build is a new hybrid Start Menu, the addition of virtual desktops and the removal of the Charms bar – which will be replaced in Windows 8/9 apps by application specific menus.

The preview build may also contain the new, O/S integrated version of Cortana – Microsoft’s digital assistant, named after the popular Halo character. Windows 9 is expected to ship in Autumn 2015.

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How about you just stop Microsoft? nobody wants your crappy Metro UI, or your “you will do it our way, heil microsoft!” attitude

The only people who like Metro are phantoms on the internet who don’t actually exist in real life. I speak to literally thousands of users a year and not one, ever, has ever said they like Windows 8′s interface. So just scrap it already, stop trying to sneak bits of it onto users
And even the phantoms don’t say it’s better. The only valid argument i’ve seen is “its not that bad once you get used to it”. It’s a bit like getting your teeth drilled I suppose, I too can bare it. But unlike teeth drilling i’m not better off for it afterwards. I’ve just lost a whole heap of productivity and time messing about with a functionally primitive interface that doesn’t at all work efficiently

Virtual desktops? sure
Speed, stability and security improvements? sure
Everything else? Stop, just stop

 

Ah geez, not this crap again.

Happily using Windows 8 and Windows 7 on two different machines here, both used for work and both used for gaming.

You know what the only major difference I notice is? The Windows 7 machine takes 3x longer to boot up, and the Windows 8 machine has slightly more annoying networking tools. That’s it.

I never even see the Metro interface. This amazing feat can be achieved in about 20 seconds of changing options in Windows 8.

People need to get over it and move on.

 
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caitsith01:

People need to get over it and move on.

I’m running 8(.1) on my laptop. Main reason is we’re starting a new setup of 2012r2 servers. Sure, it’s annoying in some areas, and completely agree with the network tools. Load times, I also agree with as this laptop is not new neither.

As for games, yes, i use Windows 7 on my dedicated games computer. I’m building a new one in a few months for the Mrs and much to her disgust, I’ll be installing 8(.1) on it too.

Yes, its different. If people didn’t like change, then we would still have a large number of users using Windows 3.11 with the trusty ol’ Program Manager instead of using Windows 95 with this new fandangled start menu!

 

I also have 8.1 on my laptop and 7 on my desktop and I much prefer the feel of 7 as far as usability goes.
there are features on 8 I like, but if I could get the performance improvments of 8 in the body of 7 I’d go for that every time.

and anyone who says they can make 8 function like 7 with just a few clicks is wrong, there are a load of differences, small as they may seem on their own, that add up to me liking 7 overall.

I actually spent all last week using my laptop for everything while I waited for a replacement gfx card to arrive for my desktop, and I was so over it by the end of the week.

 

I’ve just lost a whole heap of productivity and time messing about with a functionally primitive interface that doesn’t at all work efficiently

Remind me not to use your dentist.

caitsith01,
If you’re happy enough with it then cool for you, but why does it matter if other people aren’t?

 

I don’t mind windows 8.1, it boots faster and I get higher framerates in games.

I think there is definitely room for improvement, but I like the idea of a full screen start menu. It just always seemed to me that the old menu was a bit wasteful taking up a whole 10% of my usable screen space.

Maybe it’s because I don’t use shortcuts on my desktop, it’s mostly actual files I am working on.

 

Using Win 8.1 and the only time I had a problem was with a Blizzard update to Hearthstone. Somehow they stuffed up Hearthstone so that when you quit, windows explorer would stop working and the computer needed a hard reset to get it working again. Had to turn on Win 7 compatibility for Hearthstone to get it to work. Took Blizzard about a week to fix the problem.

 

In other news, linux update upshot 10 gajillion percent for the 3rd straight year.

cyrinno,

Agreed. We’re still using a desktop GUI created in what, the ’90s? Most linux distros I’ve seen that still try and focus on a GUI still have the same layout as windows, but metro was a step in trying to change that. I think it was in the right direction to be honest, just not enough of a big one.

 

caitsith01: You know what the only major difference I notice is? The Windows 7 machine takes 3x longer to boot up, and the Windows 8 machine has slightly more annoying networking tools. That’s it.

Well it takes 17 seconds for my computer to get up and most of its getting past bios, Even the exaggerated three times faster is just a few seconds difference.

A few percent performance improvement is not enough to get over a compromised interface and less than stellar admin.

Win95 interface was made with a huge amount of research dollars and a focus on useability, building on the work done by xerox. If you have an interest in UI design the xerox parc case studies are interesting. The reason a lot of interfaces are like win95 is because from a useability perspective it works. While other variations also work nearly as well nothing is measurably better.

Metro on the other hand is marketing driven to try and get operation between handheld and desktop as similar as possible which by definition requires compromise. You can expend effort to remove those compromises but why.

If microsoft where making keyboards, win95-7 is dvorak and metro is qwerty, yeah you can use it but why bother.

 

The gaming laptop I got recently came with Windows 8.1. I do not utterly hate it as an OS especially with Classic start installed. My only annoyance is the way its going down in terms of a form of DRM (imo). Such as not being able to easily boot whatever you want due to it not having any options pre-boot. IMO the reason Windows 8 boots faster is mostly improved by avoiding most of the POST and pre Windows Boot bollocks (which my main Win7 rig has to do)

Also the way that licensing and reinstalling Windows 8 are concerned its also a bit iffy. It seems you lose control over that as well as dual booting.

 

There is nothing wrong with Windows 8. It’s specifically the metro UI thats junk
The argument that “we’ve been using the same UI since 95″ in a negative way makes no sense to me. We’ve also been breathing the same way since birth and for millions of years before that – in, then out, then in, then out. Probably because its effective?

Unless you’re this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay69X1z-9XY

 

Most people found Windows 8(&.1) bad because of its (in my opinion poor) choice of interface. Despite being forewarned of how it was i did give it a try on my Media PC and after a lengthy evening i finally had modified it so i could actually use it easily (a few clicks my arse), then the freezes started. It froze randomly while playing videos, resulting in the need for constant restarts because its new task manager wouldn’t do jack about any program or process i asked it to kill. After 2 weeks of swearing a blue streak at it i clean installed Win7 again.

 

My Win 8.1 cold boots to desktop in 6 seconds with SSD OS drive. I get a warning from my BIOS that if I set it to fastest boot, I will need to manually reset the BIOS to be able to get into the BIOS setup screen again, so I do not use the fastest setting.

 

how come no one is talking about that Win9 is in theory meant to be targeted at Enterprise, not home consumers???yes you will be able to buy it for home but it is meant to be targeted at Business

 

Actually I’ve found Win 8.1′s stability to be awful. Almost as many BSOD’s as Win XP used to do (naturally that is). For those with blinkers who still love XP, I laugh.

Back to the point Win 7 Pro is more stable. Win 8.0 is stableish. Win 8.1 is a chair missing a leg. I’m only using it for the speed and audio benefits, but outside of those it’s not worth the effort. Having to actually re-theme the damn PC also reminds me of XP as Win 8.1′s Desktop abilities out of the box are terrible. Need to install a bunch of things, adjust another bunch of things and then you are ready to roll about 2-4hrs later.

Outside of the crappy Metro face, the other thing that is mighty annoying is that it hates migrating programs. Won’t read old histories for programs that have them, hates importing browser data from another source (even if it’s the same PC and a previous install of Win 8). It also hates to allow programs to become default without the Windows 8 committee getting involved. All relatively small, but grate on nerves when you run into them a lot.

 

When people talk about the “speed” improvement of Win 8 are they just referring to how quickly it boots?

I personally don’t really care how long my PC takes to boot. I power it on when I enter my office, then do other things I need to do and by the time I’m actually ready to use it, it has booted.

Are people still sitting down at their PCs, powering them on and watching the BIOS and OS load?

 

caitsith01,
If you’re happy enough with it then cool for you, but why does it matter if other people aren’t?

It doesn’t matter, it’s just annoying to see a bunch of misleading crap written about it every 5 minutes, mostly (as far as I can tell) from people who have never used 8.1.

 

trb:
and anyone who says they can make 8 function like 7 with just a few clicks is wrong, there are a load of differences, small as they may seem on their own, that add up to me liking 7 overall.

What differences are there that actually affect your use of your PC to do something other than fiddle around in submenus? I.e., what do you suggest is different about your experience using 8.1 compared to 7 when you are using your PC to work/study/play games/surf the web?

Once you get the start menu (more or less) back, boot straight to desktop, and learn a few shortcuts (like Win-X) it’s very hard to see what you are missing from Windows 7?

 

jme:
When people talk about the “speed” improvement of Win 8 are they just referring to how quickly it boots?

I personally don’t really care how long my PC takes to boot. I power it on when I enter my office, then do other things I need to do and by the time I’m actually ready to use it, it has booted.

Are people still sitting down at their PCs, powering them on and watching the BIOS and OS load?

IMHO it’s a bit of both. It definitely boots a lot faster – to the extent that you can press power and within a few seconds have a desktop – but it also feels a touch ‘lighter on its feet’ in general use, too.

OTOH when 8.1 gets clunky, it gets really clunky. The main issue being if you need to tinker with deep down settings, this usually involves a bizarre mix of metro ‘app’ style settings programs and traditional windows settings tools (services.msc type stuff). This is where the gripes about 8.1 are legitimate IMHO – but this only arises if things go awry, which in my experience they rarely do.

 

RSOblivion:
Back to the point Win 7 Pro is more stable. Win 8.0 is stableish. Win 8.1 is a chair missing a leg.

Can you back that up with actual stats though? Because if we’re using anecdotes, I’ve never, ever had a crash in Windows 8 or 8.1 whereas I’ve had a few in Windows 7.

99% of the time windows stability issues are hardware/driver related, not OS related.

 
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