Microsoft on PC gaming: “we lost our way”, promises a better future

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By on November 7, 2013 at 10:14 am

It’s hard to say you’re sorry, and while Microsoft’s Phil Spencer stopped short out actually apologising for the godforsaken travesty that was Games For Windows LIVE, he did use this interview with ShackNews to admit that they had made some errors.

“I think it’s fair to say that we’ve lost our way a bit in supporting Windows games,” said Spencer. “But we’re back. Windows is incredibly important. The ‘One Microsoft’ mantra that’s come out had us looking at all the devices that Microsoft builds and truly becoming a first-party gaming studio across all devices.”

Spencer also promised that there were a huge number of Windows-only projects in the pipeline at Microsoft’s gaming studios — and they’re not just talking about lightweight, casual games.

“You’ll see us doing more stuff on Windows,” he said. “We probably have more individual projects on Windows than we’ve had in ten years at Microsoft Studios. At the launch of Windows 8, we had about 30 games in the Windows Store. A lot of those you’d consider lightweight or casual games… But we’ve covered all of that property now. Now we’re starting to look at bigger and core gamer things. I’m excited by that.”

Games For Windows LIVE will be completely shutting down in July 2014. Latest reports confirm the number of people to be saddened by this announcement at “zero”.

Source: ShackNews

39 comments (Leave your own)

Is it just me or are a bunch of companies doing the whole “crawl back to PC” routine nowadays?


I’m hopeful we’ll see more games like Titanfall – “Xbox exclusive” titles that’re also released for windows.


The first step is recognising the problem.


Microsoft … just don’t tread on developers … And give Valve whatever the hell they want.


Forza 5 comes to PC? Sure, we can forget your old wrong doings.


Yeah yeah, totally believe you guys. You make your console exclusives, using the same structure as a PC, and then come back to us again saying “we’re sorry, won’t do it again we actually love you guys”, then the cycle repeats. OR worse, they make a game for PC (Halo, Fable, sure there are plenty of others) and then all ones after that (or randomly half way in the story?) you drop it from being put on PC. You’ve even taught Bungie that its ok to do the same! Shame on you!

Microsoft, when you one day realise that PC gamers are the ones who keep your hardware decent and increasing in performance, and actually push a little bit of that so called innovation in the gaming hobby, then maybe you’ll treat us a little nicer.


They are, a lot, but thats because we are vocal (Internets on our doorstep/desktop) rather than them actually caring. Easier to push out a publication saying we care than actually doing anything about it. Few companies actually stay loyal to that…




Didn’t they say the same thing (more or less) not all that long ago? I’ll wait and see results before i applaud them at all.


I am saddened a bit that I will not be able to play any of the games that required it that I never got around to playing or finishing. I would try to do some now but those that I have tried to play on windows 8 have not worked anyway.


It’s not like they’ve said almost the exact same thing for the past 3 or 4 generations of Windows…


I wonder if this has anything to do with the dramatic shift in the whole PC gaming landscape that’s happened in the last couple of years. We have these indies and kickstarters, with gamers happy to throw millions of dollars and their loyalty at these developers for a chance at something that isn’t COD.
They are making games in genres that publishers either wouldn’t touch or have long since given up on.
Better wipe the egg off your face and jump on those coattails eh Microsoft?


Ah its about time! Good to hear…

All xbox titles should be release on PC, they’re both microsoft lol.

And i dont blame them for crawling back to keyboard/mouse/joystick.
Consoles were fun, but i just love a mouse so much better (and then theres mods, indie games, and that level of customization)

Sadly there seems to be a lot more hackers in PC


I purchased Fable 3 with all available DLC during a steam sale sometime ago. I downloaded the game and GFWL came with it. I made a mistake by playing the entire game without activating DLC via windows (thought it was via steam). So I decided to download the DLC and enjoy it even after I completed the game. Oh what? I can’t unless I create a GFWL account? Ok fine.

Got a GFWL account. What? I can’t use the DLC for my save game unless I start a whole new one due to a unique account? Why? Can’t I transfer saves? I don’t even… Screw it I don’t need it.

About 12 months later I decided to give the game another go with the DLC. I attempted to include my DLC to my account but GFWL rejected all my serial keys… I attempted to speak to support found on their webpage but it said no one was available to assist me. I gave up that day.

A few days later, with some research online for various related issues I found that 1) everyone hates GFWL and 2) the fact that I didn’t install GFWL before I installed Fable 3 via steam has resulted in broken software. So I uninstalled various Windows software that was suggested by someone in Fable 3s steam guides and reinstalled GFWL. Done and all is working!! My codes were redeemed and DLC was downloaded.

Wait a minute… why aren’t they appearing in my game? I investigated for half an hour to find that the DLC was activated on my secondary hotmail account which I used as a backup for recovering my passwords (required by microsoft for some reason) which resulted in having two accounts. As a result, Fable 3 was in one account, the DLC was now in the other and there was no way possible of transferring the content around (I done more research).

Without going in too much detail I basically gave up all hope and purchased another copy Fable 3 + DLC so both accounts can have all content and my problems are finally resolved. Finally, after various days of crying and spending on multiple licenses of the game I can play a new game with all the DLC activated. Thanks Microsoft, now everyone is a winner. Enjoy the extra money I gave due to your excellent services.

Go F%$* yourself.


Microsoft … just don’t tread on developers … And give Valve whatever the hell they want.


Valve doesn’t give Windows what they want so why should MS do it?


felixinside: Why?

Valve doesn’t give Windows what they want so why should MS do it?

Almost the entire PC gaming market is steam… ensuring steam runs well and has all the support it needs is all I (as a gamer) want from my PC



Yep GFWL was truly atrocious and the best thing that can be said about that highly inconvenient piece of unnecessary software is that it did get to the stage where it no longer regularly prevented me from playing Dawn of War 2… 3 years after release. Same story with GTA 4 PC.
It wasn’t just that the service didn’t work, it was so clumsy and unresponsive, Microsoft seemed to really not care about the PC experience in regards to GFWL, in fact they significantly hurt those releases chained to GFWL.


Shack News:”Microsoft promises core first-party games coming to PC”

Yeah as W8 exclusives I bet. <_<


PC exclusive games? There is only one Microsoft series I want that is PC exclusive that I want and that is a new Age of Empires game that isn’t a stupid casual MMO thing.

Until I see that again, I don’t care what M$ has to say.


spooler: Almost the entire PC gaming market is steam… ensuring steam runs well and has all the support it needs is all I (as a gamer) want from my PC

I prefer no-DRM, thanks. I prefer to play my cracked copies of Civ 5/ArmA3 and more rather than my steam copies that don’t always work.



I know, right? I crack all my games so they don’t need to use Origin, it’s a terrible piece of DRM.

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