Classification Review Board full report claims “no element of sexual violence” in Saints Row 4 probe weapon

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By on August 6, 2013 at 6:15 pm

The full report from the Classification Review Board regarding Saints Row 4 has been made available to the public.

The Classification Review Board recently upheld the original Classification Board’s decision to Refuse Classification to Saints Row 4 in its unedited form. This report explains some of the reasoning behind that ruling.

According to the report the Rectifier weapon, which so divided the community, was not as big of an issue as it was originally made out to be.

“The Rectifier is thrust from behind (implicitly via the anus, but the area is pixelated), the victim is then raised and shot projectile-like into the sky, leaving a trail of stars. It was submitted by the producers of the game that the use of this weapon represents a parody of the tradition of alien probes of humans,” reads the report.

“In the opinion of the Review Board, there is no element of sexual violence related to the use of The Rectifier.”

The report also goes on to slam the use of alien narcotics, saying that even though they are alien in nature, their use is explicitly linked to rewards and incentives and they resemble real-world drugs in their utilisation.

“Though the drugs are referred to as ‘alien’ their usage is represented in a realistic manner using realistic drug taking methods. The means by which the drugs are obtained from a street dealer parallels reality,” claim the Review Board.

“The dialogue of the Player and other characters underlines the link between the drug use and the achievement of superpowers e.g. “This alien shit should give us an edge” (spoken by a female character).”

Saints Row 4 made it through with an MA15+ rating once the alien narcotics side mission was removed. Based on this report, it seems that Australians will still get access to the Rectifier weapon in the Season Pass as Volition intends, although as of yesterday this could not be confirmed.

You can read the full report for yourself here (PDF).

Source: Thanks, PalZer0

21 comments (Leave your own)

I still think it’s fucking stupid in the first place that that’s even in the rule list, considering we’re murdering innocent bystanders which gives us rewards (money etc.) for no actual reason. But break out the alien white powder that gives you super powers, and oh noes better refuse that.

 

Heh, I like how a lot of their reasoning mirrors what people here have been saying. The fact that the Rectifier was not considered sexual violence partly in due to the parody of the alien anal probe trope (PalZero). Also, that there was FAR more than simply ‘drug use being rewarded’ that caused the RC/removal of the mission. From the sounds of it, they would have had to completely rewrite the missions’ script, redone graphics, animations and well… redone the entire mission basically.

Some people must be eating their words right now, ho ho ho.

 

Huzzah for common sense over the anal probe. Definitely sounds like a failure of the CB to recognize the parody nature of the weapon.

And fair enough their reasons for banning the drug stuff. We’ll just have to try and get R18 fixed over that stuff because drug use should be within the realm of R18. It is the adult rating afterall, not the censorship “no no this stuff doesn’t exist in the real world *plugs fingers in ears and sings* lalala stop corrupting society bla bla bla” rating.

 

And if we needed more proof the CB was a complete muppet show, here it is.

Anal sodomy on innocent bystanders: Perfectly acceptable for minors.

Fictitious Space Pills: CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY!

The irony of all this is everyone loses. The pro-censorship camp gets a game clearly not intended for minors slipping in at a MA15+ rating. The pro-civil rights group gets the game censored and restricted due to alien crack being some all-consuming corruption that must be banished from our borders. The biggest loser though is common bloody sense because the reasons they are censoring it are as equally as moronic as the reasons they are not.

All I can say is thank heavens for digital distribution. It’s a shame we have to rely on international sources to save us from our own group of zealous fruit loops running the Classification Board and their crusade against demons only they can see but here we are…

 

Well, I guess we really wont know until we see it on you tube… or in the import copy… on the YouTube… I agree that the R18+ needs to be looked at exe3… But then again, GTA5 was let in, even with its drug stuff. So, I guess we know its not part of any missions or anything… or rather, we the players wont be using it, witch I think is more there problem than anything else….

 

iiimystiii,

The problem was, from what I can interpret from the article, is that although they were labelled as ‘alien narcotics’ (fantasy), the mission contained explicit reference to real life narcotics, including visuals AND animations for both acquiring and taking them. This was of course topped with rewarding the use of drugs.

If it was just the latter, as I mentioned elsewhere, it could have been renamed to something else and gotten through fine like every other game that have faced that issue. Incidentally, there was FAR more to the mission that made it inappropriate, specifically that every element aside from the name ‘paralleled reality’. It seems that they would have redone the entire mission, including animations, scripts, coding etc to get it through and disassociate itself enough to remove the links from reality.

As I’ve highlighted in most of my previous posts across the threads/articles, I don’t necessarily support the guidelines, and believe they’re due for a change/revision, however given what they are, it is clear that the iteration of the mission had no chance of getting through, and would have hit more than just “drug use resulting in reward/incentives” (which I called a couple of articles back :P).

 

jagji,

Pretty much, the issue isn’t that drugs are present or even being used, it’s that the player uses it, and is rewarded for it with bonuses.

 
Ralph Wiggum

iiimystiii:

And if we needed more proof the CB was a complete muppet show, here it is.

Anal sodomy on innocent bystanders: Perfectly acceptable for minors.

Fictitious Space Pills: CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY!

So when the Classification Board described the Rectifier as sexual violence people were arguing it wasn’t.

And when the Classification Review Board does not view it as sexual violence, people are now saying it’s anal sodomy.

Oh the hypocrisy…

 

ralphwiggum: So when the Classification Board described the Rectifier as sexual violence people were arguing it wasn’t.

And when the Classification Review Board does not view it as sexual violence, people are now saying it’s anal sodomy.

Oh the hypocrisy…

I am a hypocrite because of what other people said? Yeah that sounds like great logic there…

Also, way to miss the point completely.

 

iiimystiii: I am a hypocrite because of what other people said? Yeah that sounds like great logic there…

Also, way to miss the point completely.

So going by your comments, I take it you agreed with the original Classification Board decision that the Rectifier was sexual violence/”anal sodomy on innocent bystanders”.

It’s hard to grasp your point when you clearly have no idea how classification, or even how Government bodies work. Please, show us the proof that the Classification Board is comprised of “zealous fruitloops” running a “crusade” when clearly 99% of games make it through the system. All I see is a lot of emotive statements with no factual basis whatsoever.

 

Pills here…?

 

this is a joke of a franchise, it gets what it deserves, and say thank you they changed their ruling on the game and you are able to play it at all.

 

deathmist,

“Supplements” ;)

zakynthos:
this is a joke of a franchise, it gets what it deserves, and say thank you they changed their ruling on the game and you are able to play it at all.

Implying that we weren’t able to play it anyway..? Hello? This is 2013 in the age of Digital Distribution. I literally know of no-one who was going to willingly pay more ‘Australian tax’ money for this watered down version. I’ll be enjoying this Shaundi Mission just fine from my cheaper, online bought, Uncut Steam key.

 

It’s very strange the amount of general hate the Saints Row series seems to generate. It’s almost like a console war except with GTA on the other side.

 

ottomatic,

Indeed, and is it just me or has all this hate sprung up overnight? SR3 seemed to get nothing but love.

 

Heh. I just noticed Palzero that you were named in the decision as one of those who wrote a submission to the CRB. Good for you.

Incidentally did you only discuss the Rectifier or did you also talk about the drug use.

 

I’m also confused about the SR hate.

I mean, who played through SR3 and didn’t enjoy it? I imagine those people have no souls.

 

zakynthos:
this is a joke of a franchise, it gets what it deserves, and say thank you they changed their ruling on the game and you are able to play it at all.

Hey guys, this is my opinion, but I’m going to present it as a fact! In fact, if you disagree with me, you’re wrong and an idiot, because clearly everyone knows it is true and is indeed a fact!

Seriously, if you don’t like the series, fine, don’t play it. I mean, no one is forcing you to play it. If one of your favoured series ‘came under fire’ by the ACB or whatever, I’m sure you’d be kicking up a stink about it, and get really pissy when someone made comments about how ‘bad’ or ‘shit’ that series was. By chance, were you the same guy that implied people had to be mentally retarded to play the series and should be removed from the gene pool? (another equally stupid and pointless comment).

Incidentally, most of the discussion around Saints Row 4 wasn’t specifically about the game itself, but the differences between the media types, the rulings, the current guidelines and whether they are fine as is, or should be revised/addressed. You know, (mostly) intellectual discussion, not mindless drivel of “This game is bad, and you’re bad, and you should feel bad for playing it”.

 

ralphwiggum,

It was a link to my Community Soapbox article on why the Rectifier should’ve been let go (as that was one of the reasons for the initial RC). I didn’t touch on the drugs as I felt that was justified given the guidelines that are in place (see State of Decay and Fallout 3 as examples).

I have to say that I feel that my stance on the Rectifier has been vindicated by the review board and Deep Silver.

 

jjager,

Maybe if the drug was bought over the counter, instead of in a back alley, the counter claim of “legal” drug for benefit would have worked.

 
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