Crytek boss: it’s “impossible” for Crysis 3 to look better on next-gen consoles than it does now, on PC
By Tim Colwill on February 19, 2013 at 8:31 am
Crytek’s Cevat Yerli, who has personally glimpsed Microsoft and Sony’s next-generation console hardware in action, claims “without breaking NDA” that it’s “impossible” for next-generation consoles to even come close to how well current PCs are able to run Crysis 3.
“Without breaking NDAs that are in place, realistically, from purely a price point perspective, it is impossible,” claimed Yerli to Eurogamer. “It’s impossible to package $2000-3000 into a mainstream, let’s say $500 console. I’m not saying they are $500 consoles. They may launch a console at $2000, but the consumer pricing is usually much lower than that.”
“So, given consumer pricing, and given the cost of production of a gamer PC and the amount of watt of power it needs, which is like a fridge, it’s impossible.”
Yerli joked that his was the only company were people were angry that they could easily run their games, rather than the other way around.
“With Crysis 2 we tried to make the spec available to as many PC gamers as possible. Then we heard back from the loudest group, which was enthusiast PC gamers, ‘our PCs are running this game at 200 frames. What the hell? We should be running at 30 frames.’”
“Our graphics programmers said, ‘we’re going to give them a game they can’t run any more.”
Crysis 3 launches this Thursday, February 21.
Source: Eurogamer
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He’s really trying to bring back the whole “But will it run Crysis” mindset with Crysis 3. And I’ve got no problem with that. Keep pushing duder.
the same thing occured when GTA4 came out on PC. nobody could run the fucking thing!.. but for all the wrong reasons
Heh, the difference is crysis can run on my current computer nice and smoothly, while gta4 still runs like a 3 legged dog!
Hahahaahaha.
If it runs at 30 frames because it does look truly out of this world, then fair enough, but if it only looks mildly better than Crysis 2 (which did look sensational after the dx11 patch)and runs like shit due to poor optimization then that’s another story, PC enthusiasts want games that make full use of their expensive hardware, not games that run like crap on infinitely more powerful hardware because they are lazy, poorly optimized console ports.
Press start to begin.
Remember this
http://techreport.com/review/21404/crysis-2-tessellation-too-much-of-a-good-thing
ROFL, i hope they try harder with optimizing aswell. instead of levels with water under them and highly tessalated square blocks.
“we’re going to give them a game they can’t run any more.”
That last line would be really awkward if taken out of context.
It’s always good to see someone point out the obvious hardware benefits of a PC and have it not being one of us apparent “PC Elitists” that console fanboys like to complain about.
I’m all for Crytek pushing the boundries again just to show what a modern PC can do compared to these shiny new console cashcows!
However it should be an optimized engine and not one that just purely pushes the number crunching due to lazy programming! Crytek also need to make sure we get our shiny uber gfx WITH good immersive gameplay otherwsie they may be eating their words with humble pie!
Hopefully Crytek will also again remind the industry that keyboards and mice are the proper controllers for FPS games! [looks towards Bungie] :p
Optimisation is not black and white.
Just because Crysis renders every single tree in the area doesn’t mean it’s more optimised than Crysis 2 that has to manage the physics on a dozen cars and actually look good upon closeup (have you seen the ground textures in Crysis? They are HORRIBLE!) let alone Crysis 3 which my 4850 can’t even run (and that’s a 5 year old card that was top of the line when it was released) yet my card can run every other game.
racerboi,
Agreed. It’s pretty, damn pretty, but not out of control mind blowing. Hell. Crysis 1 STILL looks bloody amazing on Ultra settings. That thing was out of control when it came out. It’s pretty unlikely they’ll be able to do that again.
What? I’ve seen areas in crysis 1 one where i couldnt tell if the ground was a picture or actually 3d (as in not a flat texture)
Is it even possible to spend $2000-3000 on a gaming PC?? My last couple of gaming rigs have weighed in under $1000 (sans monitor etc) buying stuff at the best price-performance trade off.
Short of spending insane amounts on idiotic things, how do you get up to $3k?
caitsith01,
My last pc was 3k Whole new system + 2×580′s water cooling 120hz monitor SSD’s. Its pretty easy.
this makes me happy, as i wont have to look into buying another next gen console. If the graphical standard of games lift in accordance with next gen hardware (which they will, but by how much?) and crysis 3 running on a top end pc(which i have) still looks better, than the games coming out will look nicer for all pc users with current gear. get me? i just wish programmers would bury directx9 already.
I guess I should thank you, your irrational purchasing decisions mean that I can buy sweet hardware at bargain basement prices!
Well. A Core i7 3930K is $600, Motherboard, $300-$400. So there is that $1000 budget pretty much gone. :P
If you stick with the low-end Socket 1155 processor and a cheaper motherboard, then sure.
The Radeon 7970′s were $750-$1000 on release and I ended up with 3 of them for decent frames with gaming on 3 monitors, I’ve probably spent closer to $5,000 on the best hardware I could get with a custom water cooling loop.
you simply don’t need a powerful computer anymore
game’s just don’t push the hardware anymore and i don’t think it will unless someone actually makes a good PC-only game with intensive graphics
A testament to it’s quality, you can still fire up the original Crysis despite coming out in 2007 and it still looks better than at least 80% of what is coming out today.
CDProjeckt Red would be a good Contender. Somewhat already with Witcher 2, and hopefully with CyberPunk/Witcher 3 with it’s promise of an Elder Scrolls~esque open world style.
caitsith01,
No need to thank me, i feel sorry for you playing games on a system that cost less then $1000. must suck getting only 60fps in every game.
or should we feel sorry that your $4000 system depreciates so quickly that in 2 years it will be less then $1000?
Am i the only one that isn’t impressed by crysis 3 gfx ?
“Insane” is in the eye of the beholder and relative to income. It’s the reason most people don’t drive Ferrari’s and yet the company manages to continue making money… =)
eg. My last video card purchase (2x 680 4 gig) cost more than your system, and yet represents a fairly small fraction of my disposable income. This isn’t a brag, I’ve seen people running far more “insane” setup’s then my own. Each to their own. Considering the cost of a boat or a tricked out car, a few grand on a PC is hardly a major cost for many people.
asmodai – it would represent a small fraction of my disposable income too. I just don’t like spending muchos $$$ for tiny returns.
I.e. the diminishing returns about $1000-1500 just seem like flushing money down the toilet to me, especially given that 90% of games are throttled back to the level of a 2006 console.
Oh, and in 6-12 months I’ll buy a card of equivalent power to your current one for $250 and enjoy the games you are playing now just as much as you enjoy them. I have found that breaking myself out of the “must play now!!!!” mentality has really saved me a lot of gaming cash.
Anyway, each to his/her own, as you say.
Indeedy. An old SS i took of Crysis 1.. (with no AA, lol)
Direct link: http://i.imgur.com/TTsonpc.jpg
I have stopped preordering and jumping on the new release bandwagon but not entirely because of money. Having been burnt many times by crap releases or unfulfilling promises its very rare I preorder a game before doing research. FYI Sword of the stars 2 is the game that crossed my line.
And
I think it looks just like Crysis 2 with the DX11 patch and HD textures.
Developer Leaked Images of the new engine in action – for those who are interested, straight from a Crytek Games Tester (myself :P).
http://gyazo.com/6589d31da60c39099714316116fd3364 – this is not a level in the game, simply the engine put under alot of stress with a high amount of vegetation. Of course it doesn’t have any post-effects like sun flares, color corrections etc but you get the point…
Also, I’ll be happy with Crysis 3, my computer can still run it max, 1920x1080p full AA, 59fps locked (to reduce mouse input lag and screen tearing – always lock frame rate just below screen refresh rate). Your welcome :)
as long as they leave in the command console, so i can muck about with timescales, suit varibles, and graphics settings. Please for gods sake dont patch it out cause cheats from singleplayer ends up working in multiplayer because yous were not thinking ahead as well cause that was just lame.
Uh, no. That is no level from Crytek, those are Crysis 2 assets and looks like a modder’s level. For starters, we wouldn’t create a minimap for a test level.
I’m curious to see your opinion of better ;) Will post some more when it’ll be less spoilerish.
http://i.imgur.com/s4ErK3k.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZBwReCq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Fwo8c1j.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9ecPTcH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/H2t1phw.jpg
Please stop perpetuating that garbage article:
http://games.on.net/2013/01/gamers-want-a-reason-to-upgrade-their-hardware-crytek-wont-be-held-back-by-consoles-for-crysis-3/#comment-16530
shinanigans,
I’m going from the mp demo that was released not so long ago.
Those actually look impressive