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		<title>By: kunodiablo</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16901</link>
		<dc:creator>kunodiablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16900&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kunodiablo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Err, that&#039;s contempt, not concept. As in, making a high-profile title exclusive to their console solely so they can push out the hardware rather for than any technical reason, would be showing contempt. I doubt Valve would do that.

I wish comments here had an edit button.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-16900" rel="nofollow">kunodiablo</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Err, that&#8217;s contempt, not concept. As in, making a high-profile title exclusive to their console solely so they can push out the hardware rather for than any technical reason, would be showing contempt. I doubt Valve would do that.</p>
<p>I wish comments here had an edit button.</p>
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		<title>By: kunodiablo</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16900</link>
		<dc:creator>kunodiablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16891&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gtvirus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

No we won&#039;t. Your suggestion would only apply if Half-Life 3 was exclusive to the console, and didn&#039;t also come out on regular computers at the same time. If that were the case I&#039;d abandon Valve completely as it would show concept for their users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-16891" rel="nofollow">gtvirus</a></strong>, </p>
<p>No we won&#8217;t. Your suggestion would only apply if Half-Life 3 was exclusive to the console, and didn&#8217;t also come out on regular computers at the same time. If that were the case I&#8217;d abandon Valve completely as it would show concept for their users.</p>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16897</link>
		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 19:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16896&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nekosan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

As yet we can&#039;t speak to it&#039;s specs, the unit showed here is some of the current non-Steambox offerings. Presumably it&#039;s a laptop folded up with no screen. If you&#039;ve see how thin laptops are becoming these days it&#039;s not too far fetched.

The problem with making things smaller, is that the cost goes up. That and the fact that Steam would need a fairly large HDD for it&#039;s games makes me think the Steambox is going to be noticeably larger than this Xi3 unit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-16896" rel="nofollow">nekosan</a></strong>, </p>
<p>As yet we can&#8217;t speak to it&#8217;s specs, the unit showed here is some of the current non-Steambox offerings. Presumably it&#8217;s a laptop folded up with no screen. If you&#8217;ve see how thin laptops are becoming these days it&#8217;s not too far fetched.</p>
<p>The problem with making things smaller, is that the cost goes up. That and the fact that Steam would need a fairly large HDD for it&#8217;s games makes me think the Steambox is going to be noticeably larger than this Xi3 unit.</p>
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		<title>By: nekosan</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16896</link>
		<dc:creator>nekosan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just don&#039;t understand how someone is meant to play something graphically demanding on that thing if it&#039;s what&#039;s actually running the game rather than just streaming it from a pc... is there some mystical tiny videocard tech i don&#039;t know about? Because that thing is half the size of my power supply.


I don&#039;t get how it&#039;s &quot;modular&quot; either, doesn&#039;t seem like room to squeeze in a whole lot of swappable components. People keep throwing around &quot;modular&quot; and other buzzwords without actually telling anyone what that entails.

I just don&#039;t see how you can run something like Crysis 3 solely on a &quot;pc&quot; that&#039;s smaller than my graphics card alone, is the box full of magic sand?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t understand how someone is meant to play something graphically demanding on that thing if it&#8217;s what&#8217;s actually running the game rather than just streaming it from a pc&#8230; is there some mystical tiny videocard tech i don&#8217;t know about? Because that thing is half the size of my power supply.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get how it&#8217;s &#8220;modular&#8221; either, doesn&#8217;t seem like room to squeeze in a whole lot of swappable components. People keep throwing around &#8220;modular&#8221; and other buzzwords without actually telling anyone what that entails.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see how you can run something like Crysis 3 solely on a &#8220;pc&#8221; that&#8217;s smaller than my graphics card alone, is the box full of magic sand?</p>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16894</link>
		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t need a killer app, it already has one.. you see your steam library there? Well, now think about Steams Cloud.. and SteamPlay.. That&#039;s why this is going to work.

In other words, you already have games that will run on the console (with more to come as they port them to linux) no need to repurchase and it&#039;ll even continue your progress where you left off on your desktop.

The only issue, how will they fit the TB&#039;s of HDD space that will be required in a tiny box like that. (Or maybe I just have too many games on Steam)

Also those saying that it looks like the Ouya, Xi3 were making these before Ouya which runs ARM w/Android where as Xi3 is x86. Very different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t need a killer app, it already has one.. you see your steam library there? Well, now think about Steams Cloud.. and SteamPlay.. That&#8217;s why this is going to work.</p>
<p>In other words, you already have games that will run on the console (with more to come as they port them to linux) no need to repurchase and it&#8217;ll even continue your progress where you left off on your desktop.</p>
<p>The only issue, how will they fit the TB&#8217;s of HDD space that will be required in a tiny box like that. (Or maybe I just have too many games on Steam)</p>
<p>Also those saying that it looks like the Ouya, Xi3 were making these before Ouya which runs ARM w/Android where as Xi3 is x86. Very different.</p>
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		<title>By: gtvirus</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16891</link>
		<dc:creator>gtvirus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thing is, we will all get one. Because valve will decide they need a killer app to launch with, and that App will be Half Life 3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, we will all get one. Because valve will decide they need a killer app to launch with, and that App will be Half Life 3.</p>
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		<title>By: diamondd</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16889</link>
		<dc:creator>diamondd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dexterian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Personal Computers have always taken many forms ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-16882" rel="nofollow">dexterian</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Personal Computers have always taken many forms ;)</p>
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		<title>By: kunodiablo</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16885</link>
		<dc:creator>kunodiablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16882&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dexterian&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Man that would be cute. Trying to swap out a tiny little video card with your fingers. The RAM would probably require tweezers. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-16882" rel="nofollow">dexterian</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Man that would be cute. Trying to swap out a tiny little video card with your fingers. The RAM would probably require tweezers. :)</p>
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		<title>By: dexterian</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16882</link>
		<dc:creator>dexterian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this the future for PC&#039;s??
Are towers going to be made redundant?

Seems PC&#039;s aren&#039;t going to be PC&#039;s anymore - they&#039;re going to be consoles... unless they plan to make miniature peripherals?? Is the hardware swappable? Like CPU and graphics? That&#039;s the only way I could see this replacing PC&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the future for PC&#8217;s??<br />
Are towers going to be made redundant?</p>
<p>Seems PC&#8217;s aren&#8217;t going to be PC&#8217;s anymore &#8211; they&#8217;re going to be consoles&#8230; unless they plan to make miniature peripherals?? Is the hardware swappable? Like CPU and graphics? That&#8217;s the only way I could see this replacing PC&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: somexspec</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16880</link>
		<dc:creator>somexspec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16847&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kunodiablo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Oh I know they can be stripped bare but in terms of memory usage today, i still have issues with my 6gb and windows 7 chucking a hissy fit. Admittedly I haven&#039;t cut down on the things I should have though :P

The xbox 360 and ps3 may have only 512mb of ddr3 possibly even more but they also have optical drives and the ability to extend their memory (please correct me here i&#039;d welcome it). I&#039;m not sure consoles work the same way with loading X into memory once X has started but I&#039;m guessing they do. 

Now lets take a look at some of the games on steam, there are a lot of games that are specifically designed for PC and not just a port over and with each year that passes more and more of these games are starting to require more and more ram.

By the time this thing lands there is no way 2gb of ddr2 will cover it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-16847" rel="nofollow">kunodiablo</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Oh I know they can be stripped bare but in terms of memory usage today, i still have issues with my 6gb and windows 7 chucking a hissy fit. Admittedly I haven&#8217;t cut down on the things I should have though :P</p>
<p>The xbox 360 and ps3 may have only 512mb of ddr3 possibly even more but they also have optical drives and the ability to extend their memory (please correct me here i&#8217;d welcome it). I&#8217;m not sure consoles work the same way with loading X into memory once X has started but I&#8217;m guessing they do. </p>
<p>Now lets take a look at some of the games on steam, there are a lot of games that are specifically designed for PC and not just a port over and with each year that passes more and more of these games are starting to require more and more ram.</p>
<p>By the time this thing lands there is no way 2gb of ddr2 will cover it.</p>
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		<title>By: redshirt</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16876</link>
		<dc:creator>redshirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-16848&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16848&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stoibs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
the day Valve and anyone else starts releasing EXCLUSIVES on this thing only as opposed to PC also is going to be an intersting day.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s the thing, this little tiny confusing (for me) box is actually a pc, as far as I know.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-16848" rel="nofollow">stoibs</a></strong>:<br />
the day Valve and anyone else starts releasing EXCLUSIVES on this thing only as opposed to PC also is going to be an intersting day.
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<p>That&#8217;s the thing, this little tiny confusing (for me) box is actually a pc, as far as I know.</p>
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		<title>By: tiberio</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16870</link>
		<dc:creator>tiberio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something that small, seems more of a interconnect between your existing PC with steam loaded, which streams to your TV with a console like interface. Perhaps theres something more to it.. seems alot like nvidia&#039;s new device. I&#039;m sure there&#039;s alot more to it to be honest, and will be interesting to see what it can actually do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that small, seems more of a interconnect between your existing PC with steam loaded, which streams to your TV with a console like interface. Perhaps theres something more to it.. seems alot like nvidia&#8217;s new device. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s alot more to it to be honest, and will be interesting to see what it can actually do.</p>
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		<title>By: diamondd</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16863</link>
		<dc:creator>diamondd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NB that&#039;s clearly not what the steambox is about]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NB that&#8217;s clearly not what the steambox is about</p>
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		<title>By: diamondd</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16862</link>
		<dc:creator>diamondd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 10:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what would be the point of Valve selling you a desktop gaming PC for your living room  in the first place?

I&#039;m not sure what people&#039;s expectations were to be honest]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what would be the point of Valve selling you a desktop gaming PC for your living room  in the first place?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what people&#8217;s expectations were to be honest</p>
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		<title>By: nekosan</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16860</link>
		<dc:creator>nekosan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-16842&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16842&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ooshp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I’m still not getting it.
I mean, I’m sure Valve have done their research, but I just don’t see the market.
Then again, I don’t see the market for 5 billion iPads either, so it’s probably just me.
Clearly you can’t fit decent hardware into that thing. Homes are full of consoles. PCs are already vastly more powerful. I just don’t see the market. Are there that many people who want to play Half Life and Left 4 Dead on Linux with a controller?&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I feel exactly the same, it seems like a gimmicky little bit of tech that&#039;s MAYBE a minor time saver. I just can&#039;t see how it&#039;s next generation or revolutionary like some people/places are implying.

It&#039;s certainly not what I was expecting when they said they were getting into that part of the market.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-16842" rel="nofollow">ooshp</a></strong>: I’m still not getting it.<br />
I mean, I’m sure Valve have done their research, but I just don’t see the market.<br />
Then again, I don’t see the market for 5 billion iPads either, so it’s probably just me.<br />
Clearly you can’t fit decent hardware into that thing. Homes are full of consoles. PCs are already vastly more powerful. I just don’t see the market. Are there that many people who want to play Half Life and Left 4 Dead on Linux with a controller?</p></blockquote>
<p>I feel exactly the same, it seems like a gimmicky little bit of tech that&#8217;s MAYBE a minor time saver. I just can&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s next generation or revolutionary like some people/places are implying.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly not what I was expecting when they said they were getting into that part of the market.</p>
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		<title>By: darthlondar</title>
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		<dc:creator>darthlondar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-16809&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16809&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;adal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Reminds me of the Ouya.


&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I had the same thought...]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-16809" rel="nofollow">adal</a></strong>:<br />
Reminds me of the Ouya.</p>
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<p>I had the same thought&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stoibs</title>
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		<dc:creator>stoibs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never understood the concept behind this, or Big Picture mode for that matter.

I can spend a good 4-500 bucks (probably) on this chunk of metal, plug it into my tv, then proceed to fail horribly at gaming with a controller over the much more intuitive K+M and/or try to precariously balance my Keyboard and mouse on the coffee table - all the while getting less performance than my current PC Gaming Rig.

Sounds fun.


To each there own I guess and who am I to judge....however the day Valve and anyone else starts releasing EXCLUSIVES on this thing only as opposed to PC also is going to be an intersting day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never understood the concept behind this, or Big Picture mode for that matter.</p>
<p>I can spend a good 4-500 bucks (probably) on this chunk of metal, plug it into my tv, then proceed to fail horribly at gaming with a controller over the much more intuitive K+M and/or try to precariously balance my Keyboard and mouse on the coffee table &#8211; all the while getting less performance than my current PC Gaming Rig.</p>
<p>Sounds fun.</p>
<p>To each there own I guess and who am I to judge&#8230;.however the day Valve and anyone else starts releasing EXCLUSIVES on this thing only as opposed to PC also is going to be an intersting day.</p>
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		<title>By: kunodiablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>kunodiablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-16821&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16821&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;somexspec&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
I hope they can increase the memory because 2gb won’t be enough for the OS and other junk they no doubt want to shove on it. Surprised to find out they are using ddr2 as well :/


&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is surprising how much Linux can be stripped to the bare essentials and all the unnecessary crud removed when needed to perform a specific task. Heck, even Windows can be streamlined such that it works with limited resources (you don&#039;t think the Xbox consoles has a completely new OS running on them did you?)]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-16821" rel="nofollow">somexspec</a></strong>:<br />
I hope they can increase the memory because 2gb won’t be enough for the OS and other junk they no doubt want to shove on it. Surprised to find out they are using ddr2 as well :/</p>
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<p>It is surprising how much Linux can be stripped to the bare essentials and all the unnecessary crud removed when needed to perform a specific task. Heck, even Windows can be streamlined such that it works with limited resources (you don&#8217;t think the Xbox consoles has a completely new OS running on them did you?)</p>
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		<title>By: ooshp</title>
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		<dc:creator>ooshp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 08:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still not getting it.

I mean, I&#039;m sure Valve have done their research, but I just don&#039;t see the market.

Then again, I don&#039;t see the market for 5 billion iPads either, so it&#039;s probably just me.

Clearly you can&#039;t fit decent hardware into that thing. Homes are full of consoles. PCs are already vastly more powerful. I just don&#039;t see the market. Are there that many people who want to play Half Life and Left 4 Dead on Linux with a controller?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not getting it.</p>
<p>I mean, I&#8217;m sure Valve have done their research, but I just don&#8217;t see the market.</p>
<p>Then again, I don&#8217;t see the market for 5 billion iPads either, so it&#8217;s probably just me.</p>
<p>Clearly you can&#8217;t fit decent hardware into that thing. Homes are full of consoles. PCs are already vastly more powerful. I just don&#8217;t see the market. Are there that many people who want to play Half Life and Left 4 Dead on Linux with a controller?</p>
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		<title>By: diamondd</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16823</link>
		<dc:creator>diamondd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-16801&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16801&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;phewcha&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
This is going to make LANs so much easier.


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I had thought that, but by the time you&#039;ve already lugged a monitor, keyboard and mouse what&#039;s the difference really between this and a tower?


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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-16802&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;elliotengi&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Steambox is looking increasingly like a big bunch of wank.


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still doesn&#039;t get it]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-16801" rel="nofollow">phewcha</a></strong>:<br />
This is going to make LANs so much easier.</p>
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<p>I had thought that, but by the time you&#8217;ve already lugged a monitor, keyboard and mouse what&#8217;s the difference really between this and a tower?</p>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-16802" rel="nofollow">elliotengi</a></strong>:<br />
Steambox is looking increasingly like a big bunch of wank.</p>
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<p>still doesn&#8217;t get it</p>
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		<title>By: nekosan</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16822</link>
		<dc:creator>nekosan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SO this just streams the media from your pc? What&#039;s the point then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO this just streams the media from your pc? What&#8217;s the point then?</p>
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		<title>By: somexspec</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16821</link>
		<dc:creator>somexspec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope they can increase the memory because 2gb won&#039;t be enough for the OS and other junk they no doubt want to shove on it. Surprised to find out they are using ddr2 as well :/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they can increase the memory because 2gb won&#8217;t be enough for the OS and other junk they no doubt want to shove on it. Surprised to find out they are using ddr2 as well :/</p>
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		<title>By: adal</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16809</link>
		<dc:creator>adal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of the Ouya.]]></description>
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		<title>By: cyrinno</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyrinno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate these companies that think it&#039;s cool to have a weird looking box. I just want something that will fit below my tv so that my daughter cannot attack it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate these companies that think it&#8217;s cool to have a weird looking box. I just want something that will fit below my tv so that my daughter cannot attack it.</p>
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		<title>By: silenceoz</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2013/01/more-details-about-valves-hardware-grapefruit-sized-pc-chassis-revealed/#comment-16803</link>
		<dc:creator>silenceoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My level of keen is increasing lol.

This is kind of redundant for me though I only just finished putting together my second Gaming PC that its going into the lounge room right next to the TV with a 580 in it.

To play Steam games in Big Picture and play on the PC in the study when my partner is using the TV or I want to play an FPS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My level of keen is increasing lol.</p>
<p>This is kind of redundant for me though I only just finished putting together my second Gaming PC that its going into the lounge room right next to the TV with a 580 in it.</p>
<p>To play Steam games in Big Picture and play on the PC in the study when my partner is using the TV or I want to play an FPS.</p>
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