This cracked me up hahaha!

i don’t get it , the 2 times people actually have been friendly i’ve enjoyed the game 10x more running around with them surviving, be more friendlier people :)

be interesting to see what they do with the standalone game though and what they change.

I’ll agree with that, I’ve certainly had more bad experiences with other players than good. And after a while you lose faith in everybody and shoot first, ask questions later. I’ve given a player a blood transfusion once and he shot me immediately afterwards, that was pretty much the straw that broke the camels back for me. That being said I’ve managed to keep my humanity level above zero with the few non fatal interactions I’ve had.

They said they will continue with the mod development for the time being. But yeah eventually that will stop.

I’m not saying that no one has good experiences, just that these experiences are quite rare because everyone is afraid to be friendly (or don’t want to be in the first place). I think in reality you’d band together more freely than has happened in DayZ. Camps, communities, families etc.

DayZ’s in-game mantra, community created of course, has been that of “kill or be killed”. If I want to enjoy my game I have to go outside the game and find people I trust, and play with them exclusively, kill everyone I see, or try and play alone and avoid other players. In all three cases I find those outcomes to be quite boring. I had high hopes of finding people in-game, getting cars working, getting settlements going, but it just never happens. It’s just kill or be killed.

And that’s when I give it the leniency it probably doesn’t deserve and ignore all the hours-wasting bugs, glitching and hackers.

I really think that sometimes games need hard set rules to keep things going smoothly. Imagine Monopoly if dice rolls were arbitrary. If people could take money from the bank and steal properties off each other as they pleased. It wouldn’t be very fun. DayZ has very little in game content (i.e. stuff to achieve that is part of the game). It has “stuff you can do” but very little “stuff to do”. (if that makes sense)

Calling it a death match actually had a lot to do with “how you get there”. Ultimately, even games like STALKER and GTAIV come down to kill or be killed (although in those examples you CAN stay out of trouble altogether). My point was very much that the getting there journey is the same, it’s just drawn out. You run around a map and you look for stuff. Looking for stuff might have it’s own dangers without including other players, but ultimately DayZ has nothing going on in its world. I’m pretty poor at explaining these kinds of things though so I don’t know how else to say it.

I’m not looking for an end game, nor am I looking for a CoD-scripted-linear game. I simply want to be able to sit back and see the world around me change. DayZ doesn’t have that because it has no dynamic aspects (towns don’t run out of supplies, they don’t get cleared of zombies, zombies dont migrate, player camps [the only ones that exist are OFF MAP for frigs sake] don’t move around, roads and towns don’t become safe etc).

Imagine for example that every house was open and that there was a much denser urban setting. Imagine now that a person had to go through 50 houses and apartments to find food. Imagine that people could stock pile these homes with food, but in doing so acquiring other items meant they had to leave the food behind and come back and hope it was still there. Rather than knowing that the brown house with a door way and awning has loot. Knowing that if it doesn’t spawn now I’ll go away and come back. Right now people kill and there’s no reason for it. They don’t need the food or ammo and there’s no in-game differences for being a bandit or survivor. In real life we’re hard coded with morals that stop us from doing things like that. Even if we were starving most of us wouldn’t resort to that.

Saying that DayZ is a deathmatch game like Quake seems to be kind of like saying that it doesn’t matter what you do with your life because you still die in the end. In both examples it’s not really the end point that matters so much as how you get there.

Just the simple fact that there are no real rules governing human behaviour makes it a fascinating game.

Now its interesting you bring up the A-Life system. Because what DayZ is aiming for is a similar environment (obviously no anomalies or mutants) but generated by players rather than computer controlled NPC’s. Rocket has stated many times that he intends to add more mechanisms to allow players to engage in more sophisticated interaction than just shooting or not shooting at one another. Given how interesting it’s been so far as a sociological experiment, I have to say this interests me far more than a bunch of AI controlled NPC’s acting out a semblance of real interaction.

To each his own though.

I’m seriously hoping that the DayZ game is going to use the Real Virtuality 4 engine though (Arma3 engine) because the Arma2 version has definitely had a LOT of its shortcomings enhanced through DayZ, i.e no physics to speak of and highly suspect texture bug-outs amongst other things.

DayZ has absolutly nothing like that. It’s just a static world with static generic towns where static generic zombies spawn when you’re around. All the loot and spawning is generic too. Everyone knows to head to the military airfields or go to the costal towns. There’s never a mad rush to head inland to some small town because some good loot is there, everyone just goes to the same places to do the same thing and then it comes down to the rather shallow player interactions that can be found in any death match experience. Whether it’s a small Quake map where you see combat every 15 seconds or a huge open map where you see combat once an hour, the overall experience is the same; it’s just a drawn out death match experience.

Rocket has said that DayZ the Arma2 MOD will still continue, even with the standalone game coming out. So dont worry about that mate.

If you’ve ever played STALKER or free roamed in GTAIV or any other similar games you’ll know what I mean. Those worlds are alive; they have atmosphere and substance and the rest is up to the player. Just because there are “things to do” doesn’t make them scripted and doesn’t take away from player interaction, even though both of those games are single player experiences.

Compare to Minecraft which has a little atmosphere, a little bit of substance, but whose experience is made up largely of the players own mind. Without that own sense of creation Minecraft is a shell of a game. You can compare it to things like obeying road rules in GTA. It’s something you can do, it’s of the players own accord, but it’s not really something that’s part of the game as say random fights breaking out in the street or similar experiences.

Anyway that’s my 2 cents.

fryziedelta:
“Day Z creator and Bohemia staffer Dean “Rocket Hall” has been beating publishers off with a stick”

Odd method, but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

Better than beating zeds off with a hatchet.