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	<title>Comments on: State of Origin: Steam&#8217;s summer sales show EA needs to work harder</title>
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		<title>By: skymonster</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1732</link>
		<dc:creator>skymonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 06:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t take a Rocket Scientist to figure out EA don&#039;t give a rats arse about the consumer. I would even go as far to say they don&#039;t care about the well being of developers under their control. As long as they get their increased profits. I accepted this as fact years ago, and it&#039;s sad to see some are only just realising this.

VALVe on the other hand, have proved time and time again they care. I won&#039;t specify how, since it won&#039;t take much individual research to find examples. VALVe &amp; Steam win every time over EA &amp; Origin in my mind.

As far as people commenting on Origin&#039;s download speeds, myself and many of my friends have noticed it blatantly lies, we were getting speeds of 13-20mbps. That&#039;s ludicrous, we never have and will never be able to obtain those speeds on our current plans. The infrastructure for West Sydney is not *that* good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a Rocket Scientist to figure out EA don&#8217;t give a rats arse about the consumer. I would even go as far to say they don&#8217;t care about the well being of developers under their control. As long as they get their increased profits. I accepted this as fact years ago, and it&#8217;s sad to see some are only just realising this.</p>
<p>VALVe on the other hand, have proved time and time again they care. I won&#8217;t specify how, since it won&#8217;t take much individual research to find examples. VALVe &amp; Steam win every time over EA &amp; Origin in my mind.</p>
<p>As far as people commenting on Origin&#8217;s download speeds, myself and many of my friends have noticed it blatantly lies, we were getting speeds of 13-20mbps. That&#8217;s ludicrous, we never have and will never be able to obtain those speeds on our current plans. The infrastructure for West Sydney is not *that* good.</p>
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		<title>By: tollmeyer</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1356</link>
		<dc:creator>tollmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Origin can have their model. They&#039;ll struggle to get my cash. After all, that interview adversely effected my opinion of Origin, as the article mentioned, it appears to be for companies and not consumers.

A lot of the stuff I&#039;ve gotten through steam has been while it&#039;s on sale. I&#039;ve had spare money at the end of week and there has been a sale, they&#039;ve scammed a fair bit of my cash that way.

Bandwith isn&#039;t a selling point for me, my cash going as far as it can is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Origin can have their model. They&#8217;ll struggle to get my cash. After all, that interview adversely effected my opinion of Origin, as the article mentioned, it appears to be for companies and not consumers.</p>
<p>A lot of the stuff I&#8217;ve gotten through steam has been while it&#8217;s on sale. I&#8217;ve had spare money at the end of week and there has been a sale, they&#8217;ve scammed a fair bit of my cash that way.</p>
<p>Bandwith isn&#8217;t a selling point for me, my cash going as far as it can is.</p>
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		<title>By: pinothyj</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>pinothyj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 02:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I has a 25% off all Origin games coupon to spend and it took me a long time to pick a game because there simply was not much of a collection there to choose from.


Even if they do roll something out to make consumers take note, they still need to have a wide selection of games to choose from otherwise it will all be in vain…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I has a 25% off all Origin games coupon to spend and it took me a long time to pick a game because there simply was not much of a collection there to choose from.</p>
<p>Even if they do roll something out to make consumers take note, they still need to have a wide selection of games to choose from otherwise it will all be in vain…</p>
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		<title>By: ub3r</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1216</link>
		<dc:creator>ub3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steam has one thing that Origin will struggle with: Established communities of players within it&#039;s social network. I know personally about 1/3 of my friends list on steam, the other 2/3rds are people I have met while gaming. 

Origin could eventually get that, but most people don&#039;t want to run 2-3 services that all do the same thing.

Speaking of which, when was the last time I used Xfire...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steam has one thing that Origin will struggle with: Established communities of players within it&#8217;s social network. I know personally about 1/3 of my friends list on steam, the other 2/3rds are people I have met while gaming. </p>
<p>Origin could eventually get that, but most people don&#8217;t want to run 2-3 services that all do the same thing.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, when was the last time I used Xfire&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Colwill</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1190</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Colwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 02:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-1165&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1165&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;yurtles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Hold on. Did Tim Colwill just refer to himself in the third person in the summary?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All the summaries refer to people in the third person!

But yes, he did. :P]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-1165" rel="nofollow">yurtles</a></strong>:<br />
Hold on. Did Tim Colwill just refer to himself in the third person in the summary?
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<p>All the summaries refer to people in the third person!</p>
<p>But yes, he did. :P</p>
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		<title>By: vox1</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>vox1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be good if EA allowed third party hosting like steam does so we could download games unmetered. Until then, Steam gets my money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good if EA allowed third party hosting like steam does so we could download games unmetered. Until then, Steam gets my money.</p>
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		<title>By: yurtles</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1165</link>
		<dc:creator>yurtles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hold on. Did Tim Colwill just refer to himself in the third person in the summary?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on. Did Tim Colwill just refer to himself in the third person in the summary?</p>
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		<title>By: rsoblivion</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator>rsoblivion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the price side of things I think Valve worked out that the ratios are like 1 Enthusiast, 2 Normal and 200 Value. When you look at things that way (as in how successful the steam sales are) you can see Valve took the right step. Not only do Valve make money hand over fist so do the partner games too.

As for speed, Origin was fast but lied as it uses a compression technology to speed up the transfer, but claims that you get increased speed, however this is not the case you still only download at max speed of your connection and the file is temporarily reduced in size.

However on the flip side I max out my connection in Steam too (8MB ADSL 1 extended getting an avg of 800-900Kbit/s) so speed wise I see no difference. Steam is also tried and tested, with better security than Origin and less of an ego for the guy running it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the price side of things I think Valve worked out that the ratios are like 1 Enthusiast, 2 Normal and 200 Value. When you look at things that way (as in how successful the steam sales are) you can see Valve took the right step. Not only do Valve make money hand over fist so do the partner games too.</p>
<p>As for speed, Origin was fast but lied as it uses a compression technology to speed up the transfer, but claims that you get increased speed, however this is not the case you still only download at max speed of your connection and the file is temporarily reduced in size.</p>
<p>However on the flip side I max out my connection in Steam too (8MB ADSL 1 extended getting an avg of 800-900Kbit/s) so speed wise I see no difference. Steam is also tried and tested, with better security than Origin and less of an ego for the guy running it.</p>
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		<title>By: pantyraider</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>pantyraider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like steam for one thing backing up my file&#039;s on another hard drive for later use, don&#039;t think you can do that with origin?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like steam for one thing backing up my file&#8217;s on another hard drive for later use, don&#8217;t think you can do that with origin?</p>
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		<title>By: fireslide</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>fireslide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steam takes advantage of digital distribution and having everyone on a network in clever ways. Origin is still playing catch up in so many ways.

Unless they are willing to throw lots of funding at Origin, to develop all the features that Steam currently has + more and address the shortfalls of Steam, they&#039;ll never catch up.

I think it&#039;s pretty showing of the difference in company cultures. Valve is privately funded and focussed entirely on providing a good customer experience and hiring and retaining clever people.

EA is still following 20th century business models and trying to compete, and I don&#039;t think it will ever work until they have a massive culture shift.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steam takes advantage of digital distribution and having everyone on a network in clever ways. Origin is still playing catch up in so many ways.</p>
<p>Unless they are willing to throw lots of funding at Origin, to develop all the features that Steam currently has + more and address the shortfalls of Steam, they&#8217;ll never catch up.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty showing of the difference in company cultures. Valve is privately funded and focussed entirely on providing a good customer experience and hiring and retaining clever people.</p>
<p>EA is still following 20th century business models and trying to compete, and I don&#8217;t think it will ever work until they have a massive culture shift.</p>
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		<title>By: tajin</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>tajin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmm Origin... I&#039;m not so sure if it was a good idea of them to abuse BF3 for leveraging it.

Because having to start AND join a multiplayergame AND spawn in it, before you&#039;re even able to adjust your controls/graphic settings is fun, isn&#039;t it?

That, among other things left me kinda preoccupied about origin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm Origin&#8230; I&#8217;m not so sure if it was a good idea of them to abuse BF3 for leveraging it.</p>
<p>Because having to start AND join a multiplayergame AND spawn in it, before you&#8217;re even able to adjust your controls/graphic settings is fun, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>That, among other things left me kinda preoccupied about origin.</p>
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		<title>By: agentdark</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>agentdark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 06:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1107&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;phx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Neg, that&#039;s measured with independent bandwidth monitors.  Origin has always maxed my connection out for downloaded.  I rarely see Steam do the same anymore.  But like I said, that could well be due to the fact that Steam has far more users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-1107" rel="nofollow">phx</a></strong>, </p>
<p>Neg, that&#8217;s measured with independent bandwidth monitors.  Origin has always maxed my connection out for downloaded.  I rarely see Steam do the same anymore.  But like I said, that could well be due to the fact that Steam has far more users.</p>
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		<title>By: cyrinno</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>cyrinno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 06:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I&#039;m going to buy a game on the cheap, I&#039;m going to buy it on the cheap. If it gets on sale for cheap I&#039;ll buy it then instead of when it comes down naturally. In the end it just depends, when do they want my money.

There are games I do buy full price and by that I mean $50 tops but the company has to make me want it.

Don&#039;t make it hard for me, don&#039;t have artificially high prices and I&#039;ll go buy your product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m going to buy a game on the cheap, I&#8217;m going to buy it on the cheap. If it gets on sale for cheap I&#8217;ll buy it then instead of when it comes down naturally. In the end it just depends, when do they want my money.</p>
<p>There are games I do buy full price and by that I mean $50 tops but the company has to make me want it.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make it hard for me, don&#8217;t have artificially high prices and I&#8217;ll go buy your product.</p>
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		<title>By: inaugral</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>inaugral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 06:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a relatively cautious buyer now whether its from Steam or otherwise. I did however get offered some deals on steam that I could not refuse. Such as LA Noire for $3.74 (and the DLC bundle for another $3.74) or DCS Black Shark for $5. I also managed to get a bargain via an American friend for Max payne 3 ($30). Thankfully Max Payne 3 was unmetered for me and was fast but DCS Black Shark is quite slow atm (100KBs up and down). Origin wins on speed but nothing else as far as Im concerned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a relatively cautious buyer now whether its from Steam or otherwise. I did however get offered some deals on steam that I could not refuse. Such as LA Noire for $3.74 (and the DLC bundle for another $3.74) or DCS Black Shark for $5. I also managed to get a bargain via an American friend for Max payne 3 ($30). Thankfully Max Payne 3 was unmetered for me and was fast but DCS Black Shark is quite slow atm (100KBs up and down). Origin wins on speed but nothing else as far as Im concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: earlygrayce</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator>earlygrayce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have bought quite a few games in the &quot;Humble Bundles&quot; and also Steam Sales that I have not played for much more than an hour.
Steam sales increase the revenue of games we think may be alright to play but may otherwise pirate and treat as a Demo due to the uncertain &quot;value&quot;.
I am happy to pay a few dollars for a game I am interested in but wouldn&#039;t necessarily purchase.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have bought quite a few games in the &#8220;Humble Bundles&#8221; and also Steam Sales that I have not played for much more than an hour.<br />
Steam sales increase the revenue of games we think may be alright to play but may otherwise pirate and treat as a Demo due to the uncertain &#8220;value&#8221;.<br />
I am happy to pay a few dollars for a game I am interested in but wouldn&#8217;t necessarily purchase.</p>
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		<title>By: lordapophis</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>lordapophis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always downloaded all my Steam games at my full speed.

But if Steam is a Monopoly, it&#039;s a very consumer friendly monopoly probably due in part to Valve being a private business where they don&#039;t have to bow down to the demands of ever greater profits for the shareholders.

I for one, welcome cheap games, I don&#039;t mind paying full price for a game that I know I am going to play the hell out of like Skyrim, but other games like Crysis 2 where I was always on the edge... I&#039;ll buy it when it is cheap. (Like I did, thanks Steam!)

Plus, ever tried getting a refund out of EA because their games don&#039;t work? Took a complaint to the ACCC to get them to do it for me, even then it took months and I even had their tech support call me some horrible names.
They even pointed me to the Eula stating they don&#039;t provide refunds and I in turn pointed them to Australian law.

I for one, will not use Origin, Steam or Retail+No Origin or it&#039;s no sale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always downloaded all my Steam games at my full speed.</p>
<p>But if Steam is a Monopoly, it&#8217;s a very consumer friendly monopoly probably due in part to Valve being a private business where they don&#8217;t have to bow down to the demands of ever greater profits for the shareholders.</p>
<p>I for one, welcome cheap games, I don&#8217;t mind paying full price for a game that I know I am going to play the hell out of like Skyrim, but other games like Crysis 2 where I was always on the edge&#8230; I&#8217;ll buy it when it is cheap. (Like I did, thanks Steam!)</p>
<p>Plus, ever tried getting a refund out of EA because their games don&#8217;t work? Took a complaint to the ACCC to get them to do it for me, even then it took months and I even had their tech support call me some horrible names.<br />
They even pointed me to the Eula stating they don&#8217;t provide refunds and I in turn pointed them to Australian law.</p>
<p>I for one, will not use Origin, Steam or Retail+No Origin or it&#8217;s no sale.</p>
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		<title>By: joshsux</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>joshsux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like both]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like both</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Colwill</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Colwill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-1113&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1113&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vencha&#056;&#056;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Yo Homeboy this is a really well written article. Changed my mind on a few things and cemented other thoughts. Bravo Sir.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thanks man!]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-1113" rel="nofollow">vencha&#56;&#56;</a></strong>:<br />
Yo Homeboy this is a really well written article. Changed my mind on a few things and cemented other thoughts. Bravo Sir.</p>
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<p>Thanks man!</p>
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		<title>By: krashxr6t</title>
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		<dc:creator>krashxr6t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-1104&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1104&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;agentdark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
There is one thing that Origin offers that blows Steam away – reliable bandwidth.Every thing I’ve downloaded from Origin (Mass Effect and BF3 clients/patches) have downloaded full speed every time.It’s anyone’s guess what download speed Steam will give me.Maybe that’s a side effect of the size of the userbase, but it’s still a definite plus in favour of Origin.Even if it’s the only plus…


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I actually don&#039;t mind Steam, because Internode mirrors all Steam content. For me, my download region is &quot;NSW (Internode)&quot;. Since I&#039;m with internode that means non metered content downloaded as fast as my connection would allow.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-1104" rel="nofollow">agentdark</a></strong>:<br />
There is one thing that Origin offers that blows Steam away – reliable bandwidth.Every thing I’ve downloaded from Origin (Mass Effect and BF3 clients/patches) have downloaded full speed every time.It’s anyone’s guess what download speed Steam will give me.Maybe that’s a side effect of the size of the userbase, but it’s still a definite plus in favour of Origin.Even if it’s the only plus…</p>
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<p>I actually don&#8217;t mind Steam, because Internode mirrors all Steam content. For me, my download region is &#8220;NSW (Internode)&#8221;. Since I&#8217;m with internode that means non metered content downloaded as fast as my connection would allow.</p>
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		<title>By: debri</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>debri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Origin will not die, I know. But I wish it would.
Steam too for that matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Origin will not die, I know. But I wish it would.<br />
Steam too for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: muscularteeth</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>muscularteeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[origin is horribly buggy for me.
mass effect 3 - when i click on the play button nothing happens anymore except me3.exe running at some 600kb in the back ground. i dont know how or why this has happened, but i cannot play me3.

bf3 - i cant his play button in origin. again i get a bf3.exe at 600odd kb and nothing happens. (i can get the game running if i go directly to battlog webpage).

ive uninstalled origin and the games... a number of times. ive got all my drivers up todate... it just refuses to work. i need to format my pc and try that as a last resort but needless to say its not something i want to do.

it REALLY annoys me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>origin is horribly buggy for me.<br />
mass effect 3 &#8211; when i click on the play button nothing happens anymore except me3.exe running at some 600kb in the back ground. i dont know how or why this has happened, but i cannot play me3.</p>
<p>bf3 &#8211; i cant his play button in origin. again i get a bf3.exe at 600odd kb and nothing happens. (i can get the game running if i go directly to battlog webpage).</p>
<p>ive uninstalled origin and the games&#8230; a number of times. ive got all my drivers up todate&#8230; it just refuses to work. i need to format my pc and try that as a last resort but needless to say its not something i want to do.</p>
<p>it REALLY annoys me.</p>
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		<title>By: vencha88</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>vencha88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yo Homeboy this is a really well written article. Changed my mind on a few things and cemented other thoughts. Bravo Sir.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Homeboy this is a really well written article. Changed my mind on a few things and cemented other thoughts. Bravo Sir.</p>
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		<title>By: bato</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>bato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1104&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;agentdark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, 

That&#039;s because nobody uses Origin :&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="#comment-1104" rel="nofollow">agentdark</a></strong>, </p>
<p>That&#8217;s because nobody uses Origin :&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: subw00fer</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>subw00fer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, I lie. getting 2.2MB/sec right now during the sale.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5794/dddownload.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I lie. getting 2.2MB/sec right now during the sale.</p>
<p><a href="http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5794/dddownload.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5794/dddownload.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Pinnell</title>
		<link>http://games.on.net/2012/07/state-of-origin-steams-summer-sales-show-ea-needs-to-work-harder/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>James Pinnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 04:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-1107&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;phx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I can go one better! Everything I have downloaded from Origin has downloaded at close to double the actual bandwidth of my DSL.


So more likely the Origin client is just BSing you.


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I don&#039;t think so - Battlefield 3 downloaded for me in 20 minutes, it&#039;s pretty hard for the client to lie about that. I have a 100mbit Telstra Cable connection, and it maxed it out for the entire trip. 

Since EA take up a big chunk of a Datacentre in Sydney, I dare say that&#039;s where Origin is getting its superior bandwidth from.

I like Steam a lot but Origin has been, without a doubt, a much faster download every time. Steam has gotten a lot better as of late though, but they still fail to consistently prioritize local connections (even when they are on the same network as the customer&#039;s ISP).]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-1107" rel="nofollow">phx</a></strong>: I can go one better! Everything I have downloaded from Origin has downloaded at close to double the actual bandwidth of my DSL.</p>
<p>So more likely the Origin client is just BSing you.</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think so &#8211; Battlefield 3 downloaded for me in 20 minutes, it&#8217;s pretty hard for the client to lie about that. I have a 100mbit Telstra Cable connection, and it maxed it out for the entire trip. </p>
<p>Since EA take up a big chunk of a Datacentre in Sydney, I dare say that&#8217;s where Origin is getting its superior bandwidth from.</p>
<p>I like Steam a lot but Origin has been, without a doubt, a much faster download every time. Steam has gotten a lot better as of late though, but they still fail to consistently prioritize local connections (even when they are on the same network as the customer&#8217;s ISP).</p>
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