EA expects “certain amount of reaction” from hardcore gamers over Origin

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It’s no surprise to anybody that many gamers take issue with EA’s Origin service. But EA continues to try to court the ‘core’ market, and try to be “the best download site it can possibly be”. One of the ways they’re trying to reach out to the ‘cores is crowd-funded games, offering them the opportunity to be listed on Origin free of charge.

The man in charge of Origin, David DeMartini, admits that any move by EA elicits a certain reaction, but said this move was “one of the few things we have done that wasn’t controversial and nobody had anything negative to say.” In Origin’s defense, he goes on to say: “People forget that when Steam launched, there was a lot of backlash from the core. Origin represents a change, and anytime EA does something that is significant in the industry, it generates a certain amount of reaction.”

Source: MCV

26 comments (Leave your own)

Normally it’s a bad reaction though =\

 

By EA’s own logic Origin might be worth checking out in about 5 years time. Till then it remains on my PC as a clunky piece of DRM with a store banged on top

 

Does the hardcore crowed even need to be pleased to make for it to be successful? I quite suspect it doesn’t.

 

I use Origin for several games and haven’t had any issues with it and don’t have any issues using it in the future (although I will never buy games on it thanks to the increased prices).

 

Yes, steam WAS crap at launch. Hell, the client STILL sucks. I hate it as a DRM solution. However unlike origin, steam never tried to snoop on our computers, or make our lives hell. Recently, my computer kinda went crazy, and long story short I had to install windows 7, my C:/ became my D:/… Origin fucked up entirely, and I was no longer able to play sims 3 at all, I had to download about 3 more gigs of ME3 back… AND install the program again over my old install. Steam, MOST of the games worked fine, steam just instantly worked out it was in a different folder and what was installed. Made stuff so much simpler.

 

makena:
Does the hardcore crowed even need to be pleased to make for it to be successful? I quite suspect it doesn’t.

As do I – it’s just the overly opinionated ones who like to slam it. Far to many people with a false sense of entitlement or something.

 

sircabbage:
Yes, steam WAS crap at launch. Hell, the client STILL sucks. I hate it as a DRM solution.

I haven’t had any significant problems with Steam since the original HL2 launch.

 

People seem to forget that origin as been around under various names for years now (EADM, EA online, etc)

 

Not sure what DeMartini is on but I want some of that.

 

nacimota: I haven’t had any significant problems with Steam since the original HL2 launch.

Neither, but, I’ve also had no issues with Origin in its current form, and I’ve spent about 100 hours playing games in it, which sure, that’s only a portion of the time I’ve spent in steam, but I have a portion of the games too.

(Also worst typo/spelling mistake ever from me above, and I can’t correct it QQ)

 

bato:
People seem to forget that origin as been around under various names for years now (EADM, EA online, etc)

And it still sucks balls. It’s been a failure for years so they relaunch their store with added DRM and as the only way to get certain games to force people to use it (BF3…). In doing so it acts like spyware regarding EA games and other non-EA data on a client PC breaking a few privacy laws in certain countries and causing outrage by the well informed computer users, not just the ‘hardcore’.

Problem is that most of the gamers around are not that well informed computer wise so they don’t notice or even care that their rights are violated by this software.

The fact they used the name Origin is even more ironic considering how EA stripped and burned Origin Systems after they acquired it…

Also you’re dead right on the install locations problem with Origin. It’s crap. Enough said.

 

I personally don’t have a big issue with Origin as an idea.

What I do have a problem with is the fact it’s a half assed attempt to take market share from steam.

Origin is expensive, has limited range (since it’s EA) and it just feels like EA is using their industry dominance to drive Origin instead of making it awesome.

 

Origin is… ok at best, but it’s at least nice to read something a little coherent come out of DeMartini’s mind. Usually its just absolute gobshite or a speech so obviously written in marketing rhetoric it’s sickening.

This time, however, he managed to vomit up an informed sentiment. He recognises that EA has a certain ‘reputation’. And instead of trying to dispel that reputation with poor rhetoric, he acknowledged it, and the responses EA usually receives in a press release to the general internet public. No shame in being proud that their company (finally) made a decision that wasn’t completely profit-motivated (at least on the outward appearance).

That said, I’ve only used Origin for BF3 – and that was a prick to install from DVD – something that should be relatively effortless. And since, I have stopped playing BF3 because of the… lackluster services you need to deal with just to play the damned game.

Good news from EA, but just wait, DeMartini will put his foot in his mouth again.

 

To the people complaining about Origin being ‘spyware’, you do know that Steam inspects Windows for all programs that are installed and uploads the list to the vale community servers (anonymously) right?

 

scared:
To the people complaining about Origin being ‘spyware’, you do know that Steam inspects Windows for all programs that are installed and uploads the list to the vale community servers (anonymously) right?

They ask you before you start that, it’s the steam hardware survey, and then they show you the list and then they ask if you want to send it.

Origin just does it, no asking.

 
steve_rogers42

Man roll on the origin DRM hate train…

Origin as a service is pretty ok, not fantastic but as its main compeditor has a few years on it, well, what can you expect.

Also, the significance is huge when put into perspective…. all those games on steam, how many will you find down at EB with a EA label on them? if EA goes predominately Digital its HUGE, and i think its great, but it should have happened 3-4years ago.

EADM was ok for the fact you could download the whole program or the ISO of the program inorder to run it if you lost the disc etc, which was great if the game required a physical disk inorder to run…

Yea DRM sucks, but when was the last time it gave you issues?

 

Remember when EA was launching Origin and Crysis 2 was pulled from Steam? Gamers didn’t take that too well. Same reaction occurred when Dragon Age 2 was pulled from Steam.

If EA expects a negative reaction every time they try something, why do they even bother? Someone mentioned a scene in Beavis and Butthead a while back that involved Beavis and a mouse trap. I think that scene definitely applies here.

 

ub3r:
By EA’s own logic Origin might be worth checking out in about 5 years time. Till then it remains on my PC as a clunky piece of DRM with a store banged on top

As is GFWL -
Steam was a total bummer for me before getting Broadband (not yet 2yrs), and
well, it still is to a degree as I only rarely get a download/update that is not metered.

.

 

That’s the main thing though. A Steam account (and the client itself) manages your games rather than the other way around like EA’s pre-Origin titles. GFWL somehow does both at once.

 

” In Origin’s defense, he goes on to say: “People forget that when Steam launched, there was a lot of backlash from the core.

When one compares their platform to one launched nearly nine years ago you might as well be throwing yourself on your own sword.

Perhaps the biggest irony is even with all its flaws back then, 2003-2004 era Steam is still better then 2012 era Origin. The sooner EA have an outbreak of common sense and realise this instead of blaming the customers for not liking their rubbish, the sooner they might have a chance of actually competing with Steam.

 
Unworthy King

This is what I don’t really understand.

Alice Madness Returns is like $80 on Origin and on Steam it’s $50. (was on sale recently for $12 on steam)

All the games are more expensive and they’re EA’s games ffs.

 

unworthyking:
This is what I don’t really understand.

Alice Madness Returns is like $80 on Origin and on Steam it’s $50. (was on sale recently for $12 on steam)

All the games are more expensive and they’re EA’s games ffs.

http://store.origin.com/store/eade/de_DE/pd/productID.225126100/sac.true – 29 euro
http://store.steampowered.com/app/19680/ – 25 euro at 50% off sale until 23rd.

 

The whole “steam had problems” argument rings hollow with me. Steam got there first and they fixed the problems they had, if a new service comes along they have to learn from the mistakes Steam made, not repeat them.

 

Steam is the best digital download client and many others will try and possibly fail to replicate its success because they will put sales over the functionality of the program itself. Sure Steam isn’t flawless but if you have to reinstall Windows you will appreciate Steam more than any thing else as Steams First run installation means you can reinstall Windows and be playing games almost right after a Windows installation.

 

jez:
The whole “steam had problems” argument rings hollow with me. Steam got there first and they fixed the problems they had, if a new service comes along they have to learn from the mistakes Steam made, not repeat them.

Which mistakes are you referring to in particular? Too long ago for me to remember early Steam days (and maybe i wasn’t early enough).

 

When doing a clean install on a new PC I love being able to install steam and “setting and forgetting” it because by the time I have installed the rest of my software the games are ready for me to play.

 
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